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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Hi All,
I am new to this forum, but I have a 88 camaro that has 22,000 miles on it. We have not driven since 1998 but a few times in the summer every year except for last year where it just sat in the garage. Threw a new battery in it and ran it for awhile and all was good. It sat for 2 days outside and when we started it i did not idle very well, no power, alot of smoke. Now it will not start at all. The last two days. I checked the codes, there were none but the normal 12. Pulled the distributor cap and replaced it and the rotor due to seeing some moisture. Had the ignition module tested, it was OK. Checked the Pickup coil and normal coil. Reassembled all and I have spark at all cylinders. Pulled all spark plugs and cleaned them. I syphoned all of the gas from the tank, filled with 5 gals of fresh gas with sea foam Cleaner in it. Changed the inline fuel filter. The car will still not start. Checked the battery voltage and it is at 12.6, does drop below 12 when I crank so replaced from my daily driver ruling out any possible voltage issues. Still will not start. Just cranks and will occasionaly sputter once every 5 or 6 attempts. Pulled the upper plenum and bleed off the fuel injector rail, while holding down bleed had some one turn key on, I have fuel shooting out. Pulled the fuel rain and removed all of the injectors. Cleaned as best I could with spary cleaner. Removed the cold start injector cleaned it the same way. Actuated it with using batery voltage and it sprayed on my hand. Checked votage at the Fuel injectors with Key on had 12 volts. Reasembled every thing and there is still no change. Also the fuel pump does its normal on off cycle when turing the key on and off.

I need some ideas, the gas that i pulled out of the tank was definetly varnishy looking.

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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Default RE: 88 2.8L No Start

From the mileage you wouldn't think so but, maybe it jumped time. By the way ... how did you test the pickup coil? I have yet to find an accurate way of testing one. i've witnessed them appearing to be in perfect working order and be the culprit the whole time. 2.8's seem to be bad about roasting the pickup coil. may also wanna check fuel pump pressure. sick
 
Old Jun 4, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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I checked resistance across the two leads and according to a book my cousin (Helm for 95 caprice)had it was in the ball park, I then checked from each lead to ground and there were no shorts. I rotated the crank till number 1 was on TDC and pulled the cap and it was pointing to #1 position on the cap. I need to get a fuel pressure gauge. I also pulled injectors back off and were going to try and get them tested.
 
Old Jun 4, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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I have an 88 rs myself. have only had to change the pickup coil but, have seen alot of people come through here with fuel pressure problems. try and squirting some starting fluid in the throttle body. if it cranks i would just about bet its a fuel pressure problem. there is others here alot more knowledgable about fuel injection than i am. most don't come around much on sunday. check back with your post tomorrow. good luck. sick
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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If the spark seems to be good, check the fuel pressure and pressure regulator. Get a set of NOID lites and see if all injectors are being fired. What did the plugs look like when you pulled them out??
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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I will be getting the noid lights and the fuel pressure gauge since I do not have these. The plugs were a little on the wet side. but all looked the same.
 
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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To all those reading one of the 2.8 problems that accure have to do with grounds and fusable links they will be found at the base of the batt on the frame rail if you havent jumped time these are general problem spotss and be shure you check the computer
 
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