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Old Apr 15, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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Thank you, I can only try to keep going as funds permit. It will be great to get it driveable. I really can't wait for that.
 
Old Apr 16, 2011 | 12:34 AM
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I feel you. Power Tour will be here June 9th. I have to be drivable by then.
 
Old Apr 16, 2011 | 04:03 AM
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I'm getting an m77 oil pump for a good price with a pickup. From what I have read, a bbc oil pump will work fine on an sbc. I'm no expert, but I think that the oil pump is directly driven by the distributor via a "driveshaft". If I get a bbc driveshaft this should work. Do I need anything else to make this work?
 
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No! Do not get a BBC drive shaft for your pump. It's longer, and wont fit. Use your stock shaft.
 
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No! Do not get a BBC drive shaft for your pump. It's longer, and wont fit. Use your stock shaft.
Ok, will do. Hope my engine has one. I got some ounces today and hope to finish the teardown over the weekend.
 
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Been picking away at this engine and heads for a couple of weeks on and off. I'm tempted to build it and go with it for now, and pick away at something alot better later on. I've essentially got an entire engine in parts laying around. All of it old school technology, but all of it good old school technology. I've also got a few questions as I go here too. On the cylinders: they each have a number stamped into them, mostly 11's, one 10, and a 9. What does that represent? I'm not sure yet if this motor is stock yet, over bored, original bearings...

First thing I did was pull off the oil pump, I'll look at that later, getting a new BBC one to put on there though so I'll probably just clean up the old one and shelf it. Then I went ahead and stamped all my rods and caps.

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I've got some numbers also on all of my cylinders here, Anyone know what they represent? Here are pics of them.

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Going to get my 4 year old changed and take him out to "help" with the disassembly process now that everything is numbered. I do have a bit of a ridge though at the top of the cylinder bores, so I may just hit that with a hone and see if it will come off.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Hone wasn't working, went to autozone and got a reamer. What a finicky POS those things are. After about an hour getting it "centered" in the bore, I finally got one "done". Seems to do a pretty rough job of things, hopefully I can hone it out.

Anyhow, that was about the extent of my little guys patience for garage time. Once my wife gets home I'm going back out to try to finish it up. I hope I don't need to get this thing punched out. If so, I'm just going to bail on it and get the 350 block. My FIL wants this one anyhow eventually. He's got 13:1 pistons and rods for a 327 that he is dying to use.
 
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Looks pretty good from what I see. I can't tell for sure, but doesn't really look like you've got much if any ridge at the top of the cylinders. Are the numbers on the "cylinders" the ones on top of each piston? If so, I've seen them before, but they've always been random, and I've never figured out any meaning for them.
Is there a reason you'd want to specifically use a BBC oil pump, or do you just have one that's cheap? Nothing wrong with a SBC oil pump, as they can easily put out equal volumes of oil and oil pressure.
 
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Originally Posted by 1971BB427
Looks pretty good from what I see. I can't tell for sure, but doesn't really look like you've got much if any ridge at the top of the cylinders. Are the numbers on the "cylinders" the ones on top of each piston? If so, I've seen them before, but they've always been random, and I've never figured out any meaning for them.
Is there a reason you'd want to specifically use a BBC oil pump, or do you just have one that's cheap? Nothing wrong with a SBC oil pump, as they can easily put out equal volumes of oil and oil pressure.
I just found a bbc oil pump with a brand new pickup for cheap. It is a M77. I know I've read that even the stock sbc pump is sufficient for most builds, even performance ones. But that the BBC pump would be equal to a HO oil pump. Really though, the price was right.

As for the "cylinders", when I was typing it, it just didn't feel right, pistons is what I meant. Showing the newb in me. lol. I did have a ridge, but it wasn't much, at least I don't think so, I could catch it with my thumbnail, probably a 32nd of an inch or more... I didn't quite get one of them all the way, and when I was pushing a rod and piston out it hit the tiny bit left and would not come out, while all the other ones literally pushed out by hand. So I would have needed to do it.
 
Old Apr 16, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Pulled the engine apart, I really have a strong suspicion that this was a recent somewhat rebuild. The rod bearings looked new, the main bearings looked new, and the thread sealant on the main cap bolts looked like it was new... Nothing alarming color-wise on any of the bearings, nor on the crank either where the rods connect or on the main contact points.

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