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Old 02-15-2009, 04:03 AM
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Maybe on a GTP but on the camaro 3.8 is going to have a few problems with the bottle neck between the TB and the bend that leads into the SC. Plus if i am not mistaken the NA 3800 has higher compression then the SC3800. If power is your goal then a Turbo or Nitrous 3800 is going to be the way to go. I could be wrong but i think even on the FWD cars the blower maxes out around the 300 range and thats with a good port, fuel, valve train, and running a good amount of boost. I could be totally wrong.
 
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:23 PM
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Technically, to make that work, you need L67 heads too, because the injectors are in the head not the manifold. However, I dont think they max out at 300hp, I havent looked at the specifics but at ZZPerformance they show cars running under 10 second quarter miles with the fwd 3.8
 
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:19 AM
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UMMM i could be mistaken but most of the bolted FWD SC 3800 are only good to about 300 to the wheels. There was another guy running a set up on the camaro. I think he managed something like 260 to the wheels with open exhaust. I am sure he could have made more with more fuel, timing, and boost but you are going to need supporting mods for that and at some point your going to hit a IAT issue since that supercharger was never made to run that much boost. Like i said i could be way off but i dont see her making any wear close to 300 with out injectors, some type of cooling device, sc porting, head work, exhaust, maybe lower the compression a little or even go with better pistons, and maybe a sc cam. And one heck of a good tune.

Like i said you may be able to get more out of it but your taking about big work to the engine and fuel system. But i still see you having a issue with the SC and heat soaking and just hitting a limit on air.

But like i said ten times in this post i could be wrong. Im sure one of the FWD guys could help out a little more then i could.
 
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Old 02-20-2009, 06:34 PM
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Lol, id assume your MPG is toast because of all this.
 
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:10 AM
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musicman, you should turbo it.

new best with still only 10 lbs of boost.

r/t 0.139
60'/ 1.754
660'/ 7.913@85.784
1000'/ 10.314
1320'/ 12.438@106.241
taken from a local forum. he was running a single turbo 3.8 (10 psi as stated). now he's deep into the 10's.
 
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:13 AM
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Not with a T5 and 10 bolt he ain't. I've actually got the manifolds to start building a turbo kit for it. Turbo stuff is so foreign to me though, no clue even where to start.
 
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by N20EQIP
http://www2.turbov6camaro.com:443/ftv6times.htm


http://forum.camarov6.com/timeslips.php?
and actually he's still on the stock 10-bolt. though he is running an auto.

look for N20EQIP on the sheets.
 
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:24 AM
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The auto will let you use the 10 bolt for a while, and the 4l60e is a good drag race trans. But I ain't gonna drive a girly automatic, and my car is actually setup more for auto-x now. Been trying to get it off the strip ever since the mustang came home.

There's a tone of guys on FTV6 running turbo's on their f-bods, I recognize a lot of names off that list. I could do a turbo setup, it's not out of the question. It's more about finding the cheapest way to build it right. There's fast, reliable, and cheap. Usually you can have 2 of the 3, I'm hoping for reliable and cheap whatever I end up doing.
 
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:33 AM
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um, he's running a built 4L60E and a 3600rpm stall. personally i'm amazed he hasn't completely blown the rear end to hell, considering the car dynoed at 451rwhp. the most expensive part about a turbo build is the tuning. that can make or break a car. i know that Dave's 3.1 was in the 12's on just over $4500 including the car. even a low boost setup, like 5psi will get you more than enough power for auto-x.

oh and check this out:

Justin Longcrow RUS 004 82.056 < turbo 3.8 4th gen
Mitch Merritt G 102 82.901 < me

that's from one of the auto-x races two years ago. under a second difference and he had me by over 250whp. his car is kinda the "fill every racing type" car, though it seems to be more setup for drag.
 
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:21 PM
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I've seen that zzp car... running in the 9's and i'm pretty sure the car is stripped bare, with a roll cage, and its runnin on alcohol basically (race fuel)... i think thats a little more than musicman wanted... if you still planning on driving that car to work lol
 
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