Going to be purchasing my first Camaro w/6-spd. & 8K miles from Original Owner and have some questions:

1) I thought the tranny was the same as Cobra (6-spd) but the shifter (Hurst) seemed very vague? It didn't have any real feel to it when shifting, my previous car (Cobra) had more feel, like resistance and what was usually referred to as notchy. But I liked the fact it seemed more positive, is this due to the hydraulic clutch? The car has only 8K miles, so I know it's not wear or tear....

BTW: the shifter seemed pretty tall for an aftermarket shifter, shouldn't it have been shorter? When I asked the owner about it, he said it was originally very short, But too short for his liking, so he changed it so it would be longer...I said that's kinda the opposite reason why people change the shifter, to which he replied well, maybe it was the opposite? But either way, it is rather tall, thoughts?

2) The car also had Long Tube SLP headers which go back to a single tube and then to stock SLP muffler? It has center mounted exhaust, so I assume it's a SLP muffler not stock, but my question is wouldn't it be a lot more beneficial to have true dual all the way back? OR is this not possible, not very familiar w/the Camaro yet...

3) About, what would you say the headers, SLP lid and (bellow, I believe) be worth HP wise? Also, I know it must be original muffler, because the car was very quiet considering the headers (not sure if it had Cats or not)

Thanks for any help and input...

Garret

 

The SS Camaros were sent to SLP to have some things added on. A SLP exhaust was one of the things that was installed. I believe it is said to be like a 5 hp gain over the stock choice. It is still a "stock" exhaust I guess because that is how it came from the factory.

They use a T56 transmission, I don't know what your Cobra had but you could just look that up and compare.

They also come with Hurst short throw shifters. They normally have a large leather **** with a H on them (from the ones I have seen).

 

Thanks for your follow-up...

For clarification, the Cobra did use the same trans., T-56, is the above description normal for how the camaro shifts?

Also, it has the Hurst leather shift ****, but didn't think that necessarily means it has the H-shifter though...

What about the exhaust going from headers to Y pipe to stock muffler?
Isn't true dual an option w/the Camaro???

 

I've only driven a GTO with the T56 in it and it shifted with little resistance, but I could never tell when the clutch was fully engaged, the salesman kept saying "that's because it's a racing clutch."

Here is the Hurst shifter: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2997...43328134LoPFDf

On second thought, maybe it isn't a short throw? I always thought it was.

As far as a truel dual exhaust goes, I haven't heard of one coming from the factory. I know in 2002 (I think 2002 only) SLP had an exhaust option like this: http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/attach...st-car-006.jpg But I don't believe it was a true dual system. i think it is the same SLP exhaust as all the other years just with different tips in a different place.

 

I like the look of the center mount exhaust w/valence...

SLP questions:
http://slponline.com

Anything is possible, but I don't recall seeing any off-the-shelf true dual systems all the way to the rear, but there are shorter versions:
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...d=196&catid=46

 

Thanks for the feedback......

Thanks Liberty for answering the true dual all the way back question.

I got to take a look underneath the car yest. while up on a lift and could see now why it goes into Y-pipe setup. The unibody is designed w/contour in floor to only allow single Y pipe set-up, it's cleaner design and keeps the pipes from hanging down too low otherwise.

Thanks again,
Garret

 

I have heard of people running into clearance issues when running a true dual setup. To keep it simple and relativily cheap I would just get a nice Y pipe, headers, cats and a catback. How much more performance can a true dual system get than a nice Y pipe setup? I would be willing bet no more than a few horses or so. I have also seen people run with dual mufflers before the axle, but retain the use of the y pipe; just another way to go.

 

1. Same transmission shell, different everything else ha. The shifter has a lot to do with the feel of it. I don't like the feel of the Ford transmissions when they shift. The transmission is meant to be more crisp and doesn't have a huge resistance to it (which is a good thing in my opinion...). As far as shifters go... I hate short shifters. They are very uncomfortable to me. He probably felt the same way.

2. The SLP SS cars came with a SLP center-exit exhaust. It was their "signature" per say. Stock exhaust minus the long tubes I'm guessing... The Camaro lacks the clearance for a very big dual exhaust. Not to mention the fact that if you DO go true duals, your exhaust will scrape on quite a few medium sized bumps. Most people with true duals that I know avoid bumps for the most part and still have scraped their exhaust. The Y-pipe exhaust is perfectly efficient up to 450HP with a 3 inch system (SLPs for example).

3. My guess is you got about 12-15RWHP from the long tubes without a tune. The SLP exhaust is great and fairly free flowing (minus the muffler) which doesn't hurt it too horribly. The car came with the lid and bellows and probably gives the car 5 RWHP. The only way to find out what kind of power you're making is dyno it.

 

Thanks for the above information...

Yes, it has the large 3" Y-pipe all SLP stock except the headers and high flow cat(s). Actually only has one cat now,, because the passenger side one's internal cone came loose and was rattling. Now a straight thru pipe has replaced it. On that note, the check eng. light just came on after driving some distance yest. and suspect it's due to only one cat installed, is there an aftermarket plug in type connector for the O2 sensors to fool the computer, bypass it?

In ref. to short shifter, I would see it as more an issue when putting it into Reverse. Wow, Rev. is pretty tough to shift into...

Thanks,
Garret

 

Yeah but that's a good thing. You actually have to WANT to put it in reverse heh. And yes they make O2 simulators for our cars but I have no links to any right now. May have to buy one used or make your own heh.