How much should I ask?
#31
I understand not wanting to sell for cheap. I had a spotless Mazda MX-6 LS before my Camaro. I loved that car, and it killed me to sell it for cheap. Just hang on to the RS. It sounds incredible, and also seems like you have plenty of outlet for driving fast at work.
If you do ever sell the RS, make sure you never see it again. Ever. If the next owner doesn't love it as much as you did, it'll be terrible for you to see. My neighbor's son bought my Mazda, and he doesn't care about it. I hate seeing it when I'm home.
If you do ever sell the RS, make sure you never see it again. Ever. If the next owner doesn't love it as much as you did, it'll be terrible for you to see. My neighbor's son bought my Mazda, and he doesn't care about it. I hate seeing it when I'm home.
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I understand an emotional commitment you feel. But when it comes to selling a car it is all about the market.
The RS was a $900 option. A rag top with the appearance package and the Y-87 upgrade would have cost about 3k more than a RS hard top car. So even among the V6s the RS was not "the top of the line" There was no limit I am aware of on the RS package. The reason it is rare is because people did not want it at that price.
If the option in 2002 was only $900 and less then 500 people wanted it how many people do we think would be willing to pay 2-3K more for it 10 years later?
In 1972 There was only (970) SS big blocks made (due to the GM strike). The motor only output 240HP due to emissions requirements.
In 1970 there was over (2400) SS 396. They had between 350-375 HP. Which one do you think is worth more? (It is not uncommon for a 70 396 to sell for twice what a 72 will sell for) People have been telling me for 25 years that the 72 Camaro’s were going to be super valuable someday because of the rarity. I am still waiting.
Simple fact is rarity is cool, as long as it is rare with power. Very few people want the slower car in any given era. Fastest cars with rare options rules the market.
The RS was a $900 option. A rag top with the appearance package and the Y-87 upgrade would have cost about 3k more than a RS hard top car. So even among the V6s the RS was not "the top of the line" There was no limit I am aware of on the RS package. The reason it is rare is because people did not want it at that price.
If the option in 2002 was only $900 and less then 500 people wanted it how many people do we think would be willing to pay 2-3K more for it 10 years later?
In 1972 There was only (970) SS big blocks made (due to the GM strike). The motor only output 240HP due to emissions requirements.
In 1970 there was over (2400) SS 396. They had between 350-375 HP. Which one do you think is worth more? (It is not uncommon for a 70 396 to sell for twice what a 72 will sell for) People have been telling me for 25 years that the 72 Camaro’s were going to be super valuable someday because of the rarity. I am still waiting.
Simple fact is rarity is cool, as long as it is rare with power. Very few people want the slower car in any given era. Fastest cars with rare options rules the market.
Last edited by Gorn; 11-29-2012 at 04:28 PM.
#34
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#35
Just hang on to the RS. It sounds incredible, and also seems like you have plenty of outlet for driving fast at work.
If you do ever sell the RS, make sure you never see it again. Ever. If the next owner doesn't love it as much as you did, it'll be terrible for you to see. My neighbor's son bought my Mazda, and he doesn't care about it. I hate seeing it when I'm home.
If you do ever sell the RS, make sure you never see it again. Ever. If the next owner doesn't love it as much as you did, it'll be terrible for you to see. My neighbor's son bought my Mazda, and he doesn't care about it. I hate seeing it when I'm home.
#36
In 1972 There was only (970) SS big blocks made (due to the GM strike). The motor only output 240HP due to emissions requirements.
In 1970 there was over (2400) SS 396. They had between 350-375 HP. Which one do you think is worth more? (It is not uncommon for a 70 396 to sell for twice what a 72 will sell for) People have been telling me for 25 years that the 72 Camaro’s were going to be super valuable someday because of the rarity. I am still waiting.
In 1970 there was over (2400) SS 396. They had between 350-375 HP. Which one do you think is worth more? (It is not uncommon for a 70 396 to sell for twice what a 72 will sell for) People have been telling me for 25 years that the 72 Camaro’s were going to be super valuable someday because of the rarity. I am still waiting.
#37
I understand an emotional commitment you feel. But when it comes to selling a car it is all about the market.
The RS was a $900 option. A rag top with the appearance package and the Y-87 upgrade would have cost about 3k more than a RS hard top car. So even among the V6s the RS was not "the top of the line" There was no limit I am aware of on the RS package. The reason it is rare is because people did not want it at that price.
If the option in 2002 was only $900 and less then 500 people wanted it how many people do we think would be willing to pay 2-3K more for it 10 years later?
In 1972 There was only (970) SS big blocks made (due to the GM strike). The motor only output 240HP due to emissions requirements.
In 1970 there was over (2400) SS 396. They had between 350-375 HP. Which one do you think is worth more? (It is not uncommon for a 70 396 to sell for twice what a 72 will sell for) People have been telling me for 25 years that the 72 Camaro’s were going to be super valuable someday because of the rarity. I am still waiting.
Simple fact is rarity is cool, as long as it is rare with power. Very few people want the slower car in any given era. Fastest cars with rare options rules the market.
The RS was a $900 option. A rag top with the appearance package and the Y-87 upgrade would have cost about 3k more than a RS hard top car. So even among the V6s the RS was not "the top of the line" There was no limit I am aware of on the RS package. The reason it is rare is because people did not want it at that price.
If the option in 2002 was only $900 and less then 500 people wanted it how many people do we think would be willing to pay 2-3K more for it 10 years later?
In 1972 There was only (970) SS big blocks made (due to the GM strike). The motor only output 240HP due to emissions requirements.
In 1970 there was over (2400) SS 396. They had between 350-375 HP. Which one do you think is worth more? (It is not uncommon for a 70 396 to sell for twice what a 72 will sell for) People have been telling me for 25 years that the 72 Camaro’s were going to be super valuable someday because of the rarity. I am still waiting.
Simple fact is rarity is cool, as long as it is rare with power. Very few people want the slower car in any given era. Fastest cars with rare options rules the market.
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Hp numbers are apples and oranges. 1972 is when engines started getting rated net instead of gross h.p. So naturally, 72 models only appeared to a get big h.p. drop. As far as option's popularity by sales numbers, in 69 there were only 311 SS 396 L89 aluminum head models sold, as a $711 option. Only 311, guess hardly nobody liked that option either eh? But how many would pay tens of thousands more today to have that car? Plenty
One thing GM knows is selling "real" race cars to people is almost always a mistake. Sure they would love them for a little while but you would have most customers coming back in 3-4 months asking if you could fix the rattles, or rought idle or make it ride a little smoother. Finding a used 69 Z28 in 71,72 was pretty easy. People got tired of the rough ride.
Last edited by Gorn; 11-30-2012 at 07:19 AM.
#39
One thing GM knows is selling "real" race cars to people is almost always a mistake. Sure they would love them for a little while but you would have most customers coming back in 3-4 months asking if you could fix the rattles, or rought idle or make it ride a little smoother. Finding a used 69 Z28 in 71,72 was pretty easy. People got tired of the rough ride.
There's a ton of truth to the rough ride aggravation. Maybe even more in this day and age. I had one of my '77 Corvettes for sale a while back. I literally had several couples in their 50s and up, considering the car for a Sunday cruiser and show car. When you're looking to meet those criteria, I would assume you're only looking for detail, appearance and a little muscle for playing. If you look in my garage, it's the red Vette that I'm talking about. That car is beautiful and a real attention-getter. These couples were so into that car until they drove it over a few bumps. I don't know if you've ever driven a C3 Vette, but those things were not built in the Cadillac plant. They are strictly made for cornering and you literally ride on top of the rear axle. They would bring the car back after a good 10 minute drive and say it's too rough riding. Either you want a sports/muscle car, or you don't. If it corners well, it's not going to absorb bumps all that well.
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Oh hey, a fellow Vette guy! I've had a number of C3's over the years, currently have a 69 I'm restoring. Newest C3 I've had was a 79, but those ride no differently than the older C3's (under the skin it's all the same so stands to reason). Now, ride comfort and handling between that and my 92 is night and day. If you want to make a noticeable difference in the ride of a C3, get rid of the POS steel leaf spring and upgrade to a fiberglass one, like what the C4's have. There are a few different spring rates available depending if you're after strictly comfort, performance or in between. They also make a slick conversion for the front, to swap out the coils to a glass transverse leaf spring, again, like what the C4's have.