HID headlights not working?

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Old 10-19-2010, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sebi1990
So when im driving they very often turn off on side or the other. When i flash my far lights and then turn the long light off they work as normal what might be causing that to happen?


Bulb or ballast getting too hot. Here is an article I found regarding HID lights.




High Intensity Discharge (HID) lighting produces more light and uses less energy than a standard bulb. The quality of light emitted by HID lights is closer to that of natural daylight, making them preferable for growing, diving, and automotive applications, among others.

In order to compare types of lighting, a basic understanding of how each works is necessary. A standard incandescent light consists of a tungsten filament inside a gas-filled bulb. When the bulb is turned on, a current is sent through the filament. Tungsten has a high electrical resistance, so the current generates heat, which then produces light. The gas inside the bulb slows the evaporation of the tungsten filament, but eventually the heat will cause the filament to decay enough to break, causing the light bulb to go out.

HID lights have a capsule of gas instead of the tungsten filament. The gas is actually used to produce light instead of simply slowing the decay of the bulb. Two electrodes are positioned close together and hermetically sealed inside the gas capsule. The electrodes are wired to a ballast containing a circuit with several high current capacitors, transistors, and resistors. The ballast acts as the light's control center, igniting the light and then regulating its power flow.

When the ballast ignites, it takes in a small amount of power and creates an intense charge of electricity across the electrodes. This electrical charge excites the gas molecules inside the bulb and causes them to discharge photon particles, producing light. Because the light is based on this gas discharge, HID lights only produce about 5% of their total output at ignition and can require up to 30 seconds to warm up to full power. If the light is turned off, it must cool to a certain temperature before it can be re-ignited.

This process creates several significant advantages over a standard light bulb. Because heat not a necessary component of light production in HID lights, they are able to produce the same or even more light at a much cooler temperature. HID lights are also far more efficient because the electrical current is only the catalyst for the gas to discharge its light particles, not the primary source of heat and light. The ballast regulates a constant flow of power only to keep the gas molecules excited, while a standard light requires a constant intense electrical current to keep the filament hot. HID bulbs will last longer than standard bulbs because of the rapid decay of the tungsten filament and will also produce more light toward the end of its life. In addition to being more efficient, HID lights also produce brighter and more intense light because the entire capsule of gas is used instead of just a small filament in the middle of the bulb. This also means that the light will be distributed more evenly than with a standard bulb. This advantage in light quality is a major reason why HID systems are preferable for automotive and gardening lights. Motorists are able to see much more with HID headlights than with standard halogen headlights. In fact, many car manufacturers are including HID lights as part of their standard package instead of making them a luxury upgrade.



I hope this helps you understand how the lights work and why they pop on and off. Try to relocate the ballast to a cooler place in the car see if that helps.

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Old 10-19-2010, 05:47 PM
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http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DD...ast-35W-or-55W


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a link to the item you purchased please

Are they in fact true HID including a ballast or are they those funny blueish lights?
 
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:48 PM
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Sounds like its more of a voltage issue. I've seen a few issues with these things before (have them installed on my Impala) and have dealt with this same issue on my friend's WRX. His factory wiring could not supply the required amount of voltage for the lights to function consistently, and this caused flickering and lights going out on their own. At that point they would need to be re-ignited and would function as usual. Check to see if your alternator is producing the proper voltage, and make sure your battery is in reasonable shape. Then check to see if the ballasts are actually seeing 12-14 volts at all times. If you want, check the current too, and see if the correct wattage is reaching the ballast as well (volts x amps= watts) you should see either 35 or 55, depending on the style ballast you have.

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Old 10-19-2010, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by torque_is_good
a link to the item you purchased please

Are they in fact true HID including a ballast or are they those funny blueish lights?
They're the true deep white HIDs here is the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT
 
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Old 10-19-2010, 08:21 PM
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I donot this its the bulbs but when they turn off i can't hear the balast working either I'll try massey's advice first and I'll report back to you guys with the resoults thx
 
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