I want disc brakes in the front. My subframes are in good shape, so why replace them. I just want to connect them to make them sturdier. Hell, I don't need a racecar. It will be driven on a semi daily basis when I get home. It is not going to be a trailer queen or a weekend driver. I bought it to wrench on a bit and drive it. Many ideas are going thru my head and I get ideas and good suggestions from this forum. Believe me- it turns heads now. When its done it will only turn more.

 

?????? what are you talking about. overrated? rears 1/3 size of the front. where do you get your information? there is a thing called a proportioning valve (and they even make them adjustable[:-]) so you don't put "too much stop in the back". 4 wheel disc is the way to go and if it is so overrated, why the hell are you going with it on your car AND wouldn't 4 piston calipers make it worse in your theory?

 

I'm not doing it to my car, for starters. Four piston calipers simply have smaller pistons and more of them for a more even apply, making for better stopping ability, in addition to being a fixed caliper design, meaning there'll be no oppertunity for pin lockup. I'm not putting discs on the back of the car, I'm going for 11 inch drums. And if you know ANYTHING about hydraulics, you'd understand that if the pistons in the back have 1/3 the surface area as the ones in the front, the fronts will be taking 75% of the load, and the rear only 25%, as is what the car needs to stop properly without shredding tires in a high speed stop. The reason for this being that there is ALOT more weight in the front of the car than the back. As for metering valves, why bother when you can accomplish the same thing with less parts to break down? There's already enough valving involved to mess up somewhere along the line, and it's already enough work putting the system together. In any case, when drums cost no more to install than discs from the factory, why is it that many cars that had factory 4 disc before have been reverted to 2 disc 2 drum in the past few years? In any case, I don't want to start a flame war here, and if you feel you have any sound information to correct me with, please do, but do it in a civilised manor. Otherwise, feel free to PM me about it, where there's no damage done to the forums or either of our accounts.

 

Wow! You 2 guys are acting like little kids or like you are married. Everybody is entitled to there opinions. Not everyone likes the same things and everbody has different tastes.

 

all cool here but I do have to disagree. I DO agree on the majority of the stopping is from the front brakes, no doubt! but a disc system has LESS moving parts than a drum system. also where do you see that manufacturers have moved away from 4 wheel discs? these days most cars come with 4 wheel discs than ever before. am I the only one who sees this? hell, you can hardly even get a 4 or 6 banger thses days without 4 wheel disc

no flames here just stating opinion

 

Perhaps that's the case lately, but if it is, it's because they pulled back for a few years and rethought the designs. GM pulled rear disc from J and W bodies in the late nineties, and given my income level, I don't have much dealing with anything much later than that. Where the W bodie for a while in the mid nineties came pretty much standard with 4-disc, in 97 they were a very uncommon option because the rear brakes were failing pretty much all the time. I know for one thing that for about 6 months, one of my friends who runs a shop out of his garage did about 50% of his brake repairs on Monte Carlos and Luminas. And again, I can't stress enough, if it's well designed and thought out, 4 disc is great. Just make sure it's well planned out.

And thanks for not starting a flame war out of this. Flame wars suck.