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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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i dont think it would but if it is gone get one and put it on and see if that fixed it,but if its still there even with a sheild then the timing needs to be checked.
 
Old Dec 31, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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ok thanks..ill let you know what i find out
 
Old Dec 31, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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ok cool i hope i help you let me know if you have any more Questions
 
Old Jan 1, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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Which MSD distributor did you get? If it is a billet model, what is the coil being used? Billet models use an external coil, a weak coil will cause starting problems when warm. The coil may not be wired correctly too. Also, what carb are you running? If you have the original quadrajet it could be an issue. Quads are known to leak fuel from the metering wells into the engine. This will cause an over-rich (flooding) condition. If holding the gas pedal to the floor when cranking gets it running, the carb is the problem.
 
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:35 AM
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its a pro-billet HEI and the coil i think is a blaster 2 coil...no i have an ederbrock carb not sure what model though..and yeah holding the gas down does help to get it to run but doesn't when the engines hot
 
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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If your engine is cranking over the same with both a cold and hot engine, then a heat shield (for the starter) is NOT the problem, and your timing is NOT the problem either.
It sounds like you could have a carburetor "perc" problem. If your intake manifold is getting real hot, it could be heating up the carb and "boiling" the gas out of the carb while it sits. Then it takes a bit of cranking to fill the carb back up before it wants to start. I've had that problem before, and it would take a while to start, then it would buck and jerk while first driving it until it leveled off.
After the car sits hot, take off the air cleaner, look down it and pump the throttle linkage. If you don't see gas squirting, she's dry. Another thing to check is your choke. It may be closing too soon, and a closed choke on a warm engine is going to make it harder to start.
If your carb is boiling dry, you can install a heat shield betwen the carb and manifold. Those are ugly though, unless you're not going for show. Instead of a shield, you could put a phenolic (non-metallic composite) spacer between the carb and manifold to isolate engine heat from the carb.

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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Also, if your intake manifold has a heat cross over in it you may want to pull it off and put either restrictors or block off plates in the manifold gaskets. That will keep the carb cooler.
 
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Also, if your intake manifold has a heat cross over in it you may want to pull it off and put either restrictors or block off plates in the manifold gaskets. That will keep the carb cooler.
Yep, that's another good suggestion. I like to block off the passages for a summer only car. If his is a winter car too, it could give his carb a little bit of a heating-up issue. But I'd rather have it blocked.
That also makes me think of something else. Jason, is yours a stock or aftermarket intake manifold? Factory manifolds have a tray that is "riveted", for a better word, to the underside of the manifold, above the lifter valley. Often times, guys won't transfer that tray from the stock manifold over to the aftermarket one. That tray acts as a shield that keeps some engine heat from transferring up into the intake manifold "floor", which then can radiate up to the carb as well. Just a thought.

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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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doesthe car have after market headers if so the header might be close to the starter and causing it to get hot. had this problem with my 79. you can try to make a deflector sheild of try to put some header rap around the starter. You should get a highpower starter. Also if your timming is to far advanced the car will start hard when hot good luck.
 
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