mach vs lt1
#31
09-01-2008, 09:33 PM
RE: mach vs lt1
the cars running those times typically have weight reduction as well. and launching off the limiter on a race slick goes a long ways.
#32
09-02-2008, 12:29 PM
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fort Brag NC (no longer in iraq)
Posts: 2,200
RE: mach vs lt1
ORIGINAL: 1hottcamaro
True story. Although I have seen stock (5 spd) machs put down 270-275.
I dont have a mach to race (I have a 96 and 03 Cobra though
).
I do have enough knowlege to post the facts, not opinions. Here is a vid to back up some of my info a little.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...s1s_110287.htm
Like I stated earlier, most races between two closely matched cars usually has to do with driver error. Obviously the owner of the mach in the vid can drive.
As for them running 11s, it is not the norm. A full bolt on, tuned mach (cai, longtubes, o/r midpipe, cat back, 4.30-4.56 gears, pullies, tune, and slicks and skinnies) can run around 12.3 at 110-112 all day long. In perfect conditions with great track prep, they have ran in the 11s at over 114.
Just likea full bolt onls1 f bodyusually runs low 12s, but CAN get into the 11s in the right conditions (they may have to invest in a better rear end though, that 10 bolt is not going to take too mant 6000 rpm clutch drops on slicks!)
Here are acouple cars times and mods:
04 mach:12.47@111 and 7.97@87 in the 1/8tth. gears,midpipe,catback,tune,jlt and et streets
03 mach:
Hooker long tubes, o/r x pipe, 4.33 gear, Detroit True Trac, Strange 31 c-clip axles, UPR Upper & Lower control arms, Strange adjustable shocks & struts, Eibach Pro Kit, Hurst shifter, Diablo predator, SLP LMII, MM CC Plates, MT ET Street 26x11.50x15 on 15x8 Weld Pro Star
Best ET - 12.19
Best MPH - 115.25
Best 60' - 1.64[/align][/align]Too many people under estimate the Mach.[/align][/align]
[/align]
ORIGINAL: SpecterGT260
the mach1 isnt terribly underrated.they typically will dyno in the 260hp range (at least my dad's 03 and mygood buddy's 03 did) which calculates out to around 305hp.
they do, however, have a much smoother torque curve than the cobras. I attributed this to better cams, as i was unaware of all of the other differences. also, the mach1 is a lowrange car. the ls1 will typically have to chase it down if both drivers are doing their respective jobs right. and they will be somewhat close in the quarter. the mach should walk on an lt1.
the mach1 isnt terribly underrated.they typically will dyno in the 260hp range (at least my dad's 03 and mygood buddy's 03 did) which calculates out to around 305hp.
they do, however, have a much smoother torque curve than the cobras. I attributed this to better cams, as i was unaware of all of the other differences. also, the mach1 is a lowrange car. the ls1 will typically have to chase it down if both drivers are doing their respective jobs right. and they will be somewhat close in the quarter. the mach should walk on an lt1.
ORIGINAL: cbr600rx7
Not sure about bolted Mach's running in the 11. But i am sorry that i over estimated the mach's power by 5 horse power. But thank you for the information dealing with the induction i didnt know the mach was changed from the NA cobra so thats news to me. But i dont know about the Mach killing a LT1 or running with LS1's for that matter. There is about a 25 horse power split with the favor going to the stang however the LT1 drops a good amount of low end torque off the line and has about 40 more then the stang if i am not mistaken. I would have to say drivers race with the mach maybe having a little edge but it could go both ways.
RACE THEM AND FIND OUT
Not sure about bolted Mach's running in the 11. But i am sorry that i over estimated the mach's power by 5 horse power. But thank you for the information dealing with the induction i didnt know the mach was changed from the NA cobra so thats news to me. But i dont know about the Mach killing a LT1 or running with LS1's for that matter. There is about a 25 horse power split with the favor going to the stang however the LT1 drops a good amount of low end torque off the line and has about 40 more then the stang if i am not mistaken. I would have to say drivers race with the mach maybe having a little edge but it could go both ways.
RACE THEM AND FIND OUT
).I do have enough knowlege to post the facts, not opinions. Here is a vid to back up some of my info a little.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...s1s_110287.htm
Like I stated earlier, most races between two closely matched cars usually has to do with driver error. Obviously the owner of the mach in the vid can drive.
As for them running 11s, it is not the norm. A full bolt on, tuned mach (cai, longtubes, o/r midpipe, cat back, 4.30-4.56 gears, pullies, tune, and slicks and skinnies) can run around 12.3 at 110-112 all day long. In perfect conditions with great track prep, they have ran in the 11s at over 114.
Just likea full bolt onls1 f bodyusually runs low 12s, but CAN get into the 11s in the right conditions (they may have to invest in a better rear end though, that 10 bolt is not going to take too mant 6000 rpm clutch drops on slicks!)
Here are acouple cars times and mods:
04 mach:12.47@111 and 7.97@87 in the 1/8tth. gears,midpipe,catback,tune,jlt and et streets
03 mach:
Hooker long tubes, o/r x pipe, 4.33 gear, Detroit True Trac, Strange 31 c-clip axles, UPR Upper & Lower control arms, Strange adjustable shocks & struts, Eibach Pro Kit, Hurst shifter, Diablo predator, SLP LMII, MM CC Plates, MT ET Street 26x11.50x15 on 15x8 Weld Pro Star
Best ET - 12.19
Best MPH - 115.25
Best 60' - 1.64[/align][/align]Too many people under estimate the Mach.[/align][/align]
[/align]
On a side note how do you like your 03.
