pretty much the same. lol. dont have to take the intake lose though. gota lift the front of the motor, starter, exhaust y pipe and dip stick housing has to come out, motor crank has to be in the right position for the pan to clear the crankshaft counterweights. oil pump bolt/s may be lose. rattling in the pan is not good.

 

the windage tray is just a baffle right would it come with a new oil pan or not i have never had any typ of baffles in any oil pan i ever changed sorry for the dum question anybody have a pic

 

windage tray bolts to the main bearing bolts.

 

yea maybe im getting ahead of myself let me hook up a gauge first and start from there i think it might be electrical because of the way the gauge acts when it does happen

 

Scroll down the pics about 2/3's of the page: http://www.ellweinengines.com/DartERE383.html
Interesting how they reference to using it for "good oil pressure".

 

ok since it finally stoped snowing here in jersey and the nice weather is coming in im going to be dropping my oil pan to see whats going on in there since im gonna have the pan down im gonna replace the oil pump if its the problem or not my question is there showing oil pumps with 2 diffrent inlets 3/4 and 5/8 how do i know which one to get or is one better then the other