Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
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12-01-2008 | 01:04 AM
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RE: Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
Hey man its ok. Every one has to start some where and thats what forums are for.
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If you have the money buy a LS1 car to start out with. They are cheap right now and you can pick one up for maybe just a few thousand more then a LT1 car. If you already have the LT1 car then you can build the LT1 cheaper then swaping out to a LS1. I would personally take the LS1 lots of parts and a great platform to build and get more power out of. The LT1 can also make good power on its own vs swaping out to the LS1. A good head/cam package with exhaust, intake, and headers will get you well into the low to mid 300s for about 3000-4000 in parts and labor give or take depending on shop and brands. As you know the LS1 will put down around 300 stock and loves mods so the choice is realy up too you.
.If you have the money buy a LS1 car to start out with. They are cheap right now and you can pick one up for maybe just a few thousand more then a LT1 car. If you already have the LT1 car then you can build the LT1 cheaper then swaping out to a LS1. I would personally take the LS1 lots of parts and a great platform to build and get more power out of. The LT1 can also make good power on its own vs swaping out to the LS1. A good head/cam package with exhaust, intake, and headers will get you well into the low to mid 300s for about 3000-4000 in parts and labor give or take depending on shop and brands. As you know the LS1 will put down around 300 stock and loves mods so the choice is realy up too you.
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12-01-2008 | 09:00 AM
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RE: Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
low 300's with a head and cam package? i'd be demanding my money back! there's no reason that you can't get 400+ on a stock bottom end lt1...bore it out to a 383 and there's no reason you can't be a 450...and then spray it you can be upwards of 550. don't sell the lt1 short
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12-01-2008 | 09:09 AM
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RE: Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
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Sorry guys I hope I don't seem like a noob to Camaro's I been researching as hard as I can between getting ready for finals. All I know is that after all the reading I've done there would be no reason to get a ford mustang from the years I want over a Camaro. It seems the Camaro is always ahead of it's time and the firebird is too bad either especially since it is like a Camaro but I like the Camaro much more not only looks but what they have in tech and good weight of the car. I guess my main reason for wanting to drop a LS1 is the weight difference of engines as well as the LS1 being a top rated engine, it is obvious if an engine goes into a Corvette then it is good. I know an LT1 can get ***** but an LS1 will get more. I know a little about headers, manifold, exsaust, cam, cold air intake, and super/turbo charger. Even gutting the catalic converter can help but obviously illigal for smog control. I guess it is just that I am young so I can only get a car for so much at this time especially since I am in college and was planning on doing things later on rather than as I go.
Sorry guys I hope I don't seem like a noob to Camaro's I been researching as hard as I can between getting ready for finals. All I know is that after all the reading I've done there would be no reason to get a ford mustang from the years I want over a Camaro. It seems the Camaro is always ahead of it's time and the firebird is too bad either especially since it is like a Camaro but I like the Camaro much more not only looks but what they have in tech and good weight of the car. I guess my main reason for wanting to drop a LS1 is the weight difference of engines as well as the LS1 being a top rated engine, it is obvious if an engine goes into a Corvette then it is good. I know an LT1 can get ***** but an LS1 will get more. I know a little about headers, manifold, exsaust, cam, cold air intake, and super/turbo charger. Even gutting the catalic converter can help but obviously illigal for smog control. I guess it is just that I am young so I can only get a car for so much at this time especially since I am in college and was planning on doing things later on rather than as I go.
and i too think ur a little low cbr. a head/cam package on an lt1 will net mid 300s at the wheels, which is over 400bhp and keep everything pretty tame. the lt1 HC can start to approach ls1 cam numbers, but the car starts to become more tempermental, just like going to a bigger cam in an ls1.
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12-01-2008 | 09:28 AM
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RE: Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
there's a guy on ls1tech who runs a 396 lt1...he drove it 2 hours to the track...ran 11.0's and a 10.97 without spray, and drove it back home. he puts out right around 450 on motor. that's more than enough for most people
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12-01-2008 | 01:34 PM
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RE: Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
Well the LT1 just has iron cast which makes a little heavier than the LS1 I know the Camaro always seems to get the 'vette engine a year or two after. Like the LT4 was in the 'vette as well and only in the SS for the year of 97' but I guess what i am looking at is a car with already 300+ hp to build up on. Most of the time when I am looking for a LS1(SS) they are double to five times the amount of LT1(Z28) and generally the LT4 are more expensive since only 100 were made.
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12-01-2008 | 02:00 PM
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RE: Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
you're right spec, i was just pointing out that you can make the lt1 run for less work than it'd be to do an ls1 swap
so what is your question here knightemilio? you want the ls1, then buy one? don't let us talk you out of it...but you can make a 400 hp car for the same amount of money as swapping the ls1 over. but if you're hellbent on gettin the the ls1 then do it
so what is your question here knightemilio? you want the ls1, then buy one? don't let us talk you out of it...but you can make a 400 hp car for the same amount of money as swapping the ls1 over. but if you're hellbent on gettin the the ls1 then do it
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12-01-2008 | 05:00 PM
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RE: Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
ORIGINAL: knightemilio
Well the LT1 just has iron cast which makes a little heavier than the LS1 I know the Camaro always seems to get the 'vette engine a year or two after. Like the LT4 was in the 'vette as well and only in the SS for the year of 97' but I guess what i am looking at is a car with already 300+ hp to build up on. Most of the time when I am looking for a LS1(SS) they are double to five times the amount of LT1(Z28) and generally the LT4 are more expensive since only 100 were made.
Well the LT1 just has iron cast which makes a little heavier than the LS1 I know the Camaro always seems to get the 'vette engine a year or two after. Like the LT4 was in the 'vette as well and only in the SS for the year of 97' but I guess what i am looking at is a car with already 300+ hp to build up on. Most of the time when I am looking for a LS1(SS) they are double to five times the amount of LT1(Z28) and generally the LT4 are more expensive since only 100 were made.
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12-01-2008 | 05:13 PM
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RE: Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
Ok I see y'alls point I think I am sticking guns with the LT1 and hope to beat out lighter LS1's. I guess I just see it has better power to weight ratio with the LS1 but I think a little twiques here and there I can beat one.
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12-01-2008 | 06:43 PM
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RE: Engine Swap LT1 to LS1
ORIGINAL: knightemilio
Well the LT1 just has iron cast which makes a little heavier than the LS1 I know the Camaro always seems to get the 'vette engine a year or two after. Like the LT4 was in the 'vette as well and only in the SS for the year of 97' but I guess what i am looking at is a car with already 300+ hp to build up on. Most of the time when I am looking for a LS1(SS) they are double to five times the amount of LT1(Z28) and generally the LT4 are more expensive since only 100 were made.
Well the LT1 just has iron cast which makes a little heavier than the LS1 I know the Camaro always seems to get the 'vette engine a year or two after. Like the LT4 was in the 'vette as well and only in the SS for the year of 97' but I guess what i am looking at is a car with already 300+ hp to build up on. Most of the time when I am looking for a LS1(SS) they are double to five times the amount of LT1(Z28) and generally the LT4 are more expensive since only 100 were made.
the motor is NOT based on model. its based on year.
so ALL z28's and SS's from 93-97 are LT1 (except a few special edition cars in 97 were lt4)
and ALL z28's and SS's from 98-2002 are LS1
the lt4 IS an LT1. it just had a different intake manifold, cam, and heads. otherwise its the same. This is why the LT4 swap is not a full motor swap, but an HCI package.
same thing for the ls6. its just an ls1 with a specific factory spec HCI. now, the ls6 DOES have its own block, but some ls1's in 2002 got this block as well (probably due to production numbers, kinda like the 3.9L mustang in 04).
do we have a sticky on 4th gen motor specifics? If not I will get one put together with colaboration from slvr (since i could give a **** about lt1's [8D])