Honestly get the ceramic coated they are well worth the money. My painted pacesetters only last like 5mins after turning on the car and now they look like shat. They get very hot under the engine aswell and I don't like that. Also be prepared to be creative with the egr tube. Mine is a 96 so it might be different for yours.

 

Gorn, as a friend I feel I should tell you that someone stole a cylinder from each side of your engine :-)

 

Always gotta be givin crap, don't ya! With friends like you, who needs enemas? lol

 

Hey, I got (3) V8s in my Garage, V6 is going to my Daughter when she starts driving.

 

Gorn

Do you have a pic of the other side of the motor ? I got a 09 buick engine and got a lot of stuff off my 97 today and am comparing the differences between the motors and what I can and cant change.

 

Check out the link in my sig for the 96 build. I think there is a passanger side view in there.

 

I just cannot fathom why anyone would waste money installing anything less than Long Tube Headers on a 98+ V6 Camaro? Yes, LTs do exist for 3.8L Camaros! FFF, or custom one-offs are the options I am aware of.

 

Enjoy.
Custom long tube stainless 3800 fBody (Camaro/Firebird) headers

 

Just when I had decided that this wouldn't be so expensive. Had to dangle that in front of me, didn't you?

Liberty, the reason I wouldn't have gone with LTs is the fact that the ones Socom posted were the only ones I could find, and I only found them from when they were made. I think they were $800 sans Y-pipe then.

 

Let me see if I can help you fathom. As the volume of the exhaust increase, depending on the size of the tube, the highest point of the exhaust velocity gets farther away from the engine. In a perfect exhaust the headers would start off as a shorty then as the RPMs increased the collector would get farther away then towards the higher RPMs a long header is needed. Since dynos are always looked at for MAX HP long tube headers make a lot of sense. They are going to give you the best result if all you care about is Dyno or ¼ mile time, if you want a better all around car you want to look at the weak spots of the motor and tune the header to help that. These header manufactures are not stupid, they know 98% of the people who install headers on a V6 are going to judge them by butt dyno. Butt dyno is passing a car on the highway in the 2000-3500 RPM range. The 3800 is going to respond better in that RPM range to mid length headers then long tube. In fact at 2000 RPM shorties may do better. Most people rarely get into the 5000 RPM range during their daily commute. Does that help with the fathoming?

I could go into the cost factor but that point is moot. The true cost to mass produce long tube vs short tube would be less than a 10% increase. The manufacturer just knows most people would not be happy with them. Long tubes current cost are high because of volume. The 1- 2% of the V6 world that would actually dyno or race a V6 is simply not worth mass production.