3rd or 4th Gen Camaro - Good First Car?
#12
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
Posts: 10,462
I am curious as to why you think the 4th gen is more problematic then the 3rd gen? The 3800 T5 is a 200K car if maintained and not abused. There are some comedic issues with dashes cracking and some rattles but hardly anything a teenager would mind. I like the front suspension of the 4th gen but I also like the weight of the 3rd gen. I have owed both and for me it is a tossup. That is comparing a 90 V8 vs. a 96 V6. One place the 3gen wins is the fact it is easier to work on, but my guess would be that the 20 year old car is going to need more work than the 14 year old car.
#13
A fourth gen Camaro would be a great first car, I would definitely hold out for a manual though. I wish I had one now. Insurance on a V8 for me would have been double, so I stuck with the V6.
Prone to some minor problems yes, but I don't agree with Catmaigne that it's problematic. The drivetrains on any of them will last if not abused. Any car can be reliable if properly maintained.
Prone to some minor problems yes, but I don't agree with Catmaigne that it's problematic. The drivetrains on any of them will last if not abused. Any car can be reliable if properly maintained.
#14
A fourth gen Camaro would be a great first car, I would definitely hold out for a manual though. I wish I had one now. Insurance on a V8 for me would have been double, so I stuck with the V6.
Prone to some minor problems yes, but I don't agree with Catmaigne that it's problematic. The drivetrains on any of them will last if not abused. Any car can be reliable if properly maintained.
Prone to some minor problems yes, but I don't agree with Catmaigne that it's problematic. The drivetrains on any of them will last if not abused. Any car can be reliable if properly maintained.
#15
First things first, check with insurance. If the disparity between a V6 and V8 isn't too high it's well worth the extra green.
I'm not saying that the V6 4th gen is more problematic than any other car, what I'm saying is that if it looks like a sports car chances are it's been driven hard over the years. These cars typically attract 2 types of people: 40-somethings having their midlife crisis and reckless teenagers. Don't expect pristine condition with such a wicked looking car.
With the V6 it seems like you're paying for the namesake more than anything else. Buying a non V8 Camaro is like marrying a supermodel only to find out she has guy-parts. It's a total deal breaker. The same concept applies to transmissions.
A good friend of mine is realizing this with his N/A 300ZX 2+2. When I bought my first car (a 98 Mercury Sable w/146k for $300, most revolting thing on the road) I hosted my own "Hooptie Race." A few friends and I gathered in an abandoned office park to see which of our crappy cars was the fastest down the lot. I jokingly challenged my friend's 300ZX to see how much I'd lose by but was shocked when the Sable actually kept pace. Grandma's 3.0 DOHC V6 was pushing 200HP, just 22 shy of his non-turbo. Feeling threatened, he started planning a TT swap.
The funny part is that I never had a single problem with the Sable contrary to what I have now. It was a great car that refused to die no matter how much I screwed with it.
I'm not saying that the V6 4th gen is more problematic than any other car, what I'm saying is that if it looks like a sports car chances are it's been driven hard over the years. These cars typically attract 2 types of people: 40-somethings having their midlife crisis and reckless teenagers. Don't expect pristine condition with such a wicked looking car.
With the V6 it seems like you're paying for the namesake more than anything else. Buying a non V8 Camaro is like marrying a supermodel only to find out she has guy-parts. It's a total deal breaker. The same concept applies to transmissions.
A good friend of mine is realizing this with his N/A 300ZX 2+2. When I bought my first car (a 98 Mercury Sable w/146k for $300, most revolting thing on the road) I hosted my own "Hooptie Race." A few friends and I gathered in an abandoned office park to see which of our crappy cars was the fastest down the lot. I jokingly challenged my friend's 300ZX to see how much I'd lose by but was shocked when the Sable actually kept pace. Grandma's 3.0 DOHC V6 was pushing 200HP, just 22 shy of his non-turbo. Feeling threatened, he started planning a TT swap.
The funny part is that I never had a single problem with the Sable contrary to what I have now. It was a great car that refused to die no matter how much I screwed with it.
Last edited by Catmaigne; 07-12-2011 at 10:39 PM.
#16
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
Posts: 10,462
I'm not saying that the V6 4th gen is more problematic than any other car, what I'm saying is that if it looks like a sports car chances are it's been driven hard over the years. These cars typically attract 2 types of people: 40-somethings having their midlife crisis and reckless teenagers. Don't expect pristine condition with such a wicked looking car.
The non-Z 305 TBI has a little less HP then the V6 3800. Both cars with a t5 can be fun to drive first cars. 300hp can be a bit much for a 16 year old, 300hp 6 speed can be trouble. Maybe it is because I am a father but it is something to work up to not to start off with.
Last edited by Gorn; 07-13-2011 at 11:23 AM.
#17
First things first, check with insurance. If the disparity between a V6 and V8 isn't too high it's well worth the extra green.
I'm not saying that the V6 4th gen is more problematic than any other car, what I'm saying is that if it looks like a sports car chances are it's been driven hard over the years. These cars typically attract 2 types of people: 40-somethings having their midlife crisis and reckless teenagers. Don't expect pristine condition with such a wicked looking car.
With the V6 it seems like you're paying for the namesake more than anything else. Buying a non V8 Camaro is like marrying a supermodel only to find out she has guy-parts. It's a total deal breaker. The same concept applies to transmissions.
A good friend of mine is realizing this with his N/A 300ZX 2+2. When I bought my first car (a 98 Mercury Sable w/146k for $300, most revolting thing on the road) I hosted my own "Hooptie Race." A few friends and I gathered in an abandoned office park to see which of our crappy cars was the fastest down the lot. I jokingly challenged my friend's 300ZX to see how much I'd lose by but was shocked when the Sable actually kept pace. Grandma's 3.0 DOHC V6 was pushing 200HP, just 22 shy of his non-turbo. Feeling threatened, he started planning a TT swap.
The funny part is that I never had a single problem with the Sable contrary to what I have now. It was a great car that refused to die no matter how much I screwed with it.
I'm not saying that the V6 4th gen is more problematic than any other car, what I'm saying is that if it looks like a sports car chances are it's been driven hard over the years. These cars typically attract 2 types of people: 40-somethings having their midlife crisis and reckless teenagers. Don't expect pristine condition with such a wicked looking car.
With the V6 it seems like you're paying for the namesake more than anything else. Buying a non V8 Camaro is like marrying a supermodel only to find out she has guy-parts. It's a total deal breaker. The same concept applies to transmissions.
A good friend of mine is realizing this with his N/A 300ZX 2+2. When I bought my first car (a 98 Mercury Sable w/146k for $300, most revolting thing on the road) I hosted my own "Hooptie Race." A few friends and I gathered in an abandoned office park to see which of our crappy cars was the fastest down the lot. I jokingly challenged my friend's 300ZX to see how much I'd lose by but was shocked when the Sable actually kept pace. Grandma's 3.0 DOHC V6 was pushing 200HP, just 22 shy of his non-turbo. Feeling threatened, he started planning a TT swap.
The funny part is that I never had a single problem with the Sable contrary to what I have now. It was a great car that refused to die no matter how much I screwed with it.
#18
I am 16 and get my licence in 2 months and I own a 1997 Camaro RS and love it. Sure having a v8 is nice and sometimes I wish I had one, but insurance in Maryland is a huge difference I got quoted $200-300 with my v6 and $400-700 for a ls1 a month (seems outrageous ! ). But anyways I got my car its a 30th anniversary Rallysport for $2000 with 70000 miles every thing was in good shape the t-tops dont even leak but a v8 would also mean higher price. I love driving my car, I think you would love a 4th gen and a 3.8 is surprisingly powerful (will catch second with 10 inch tires)
Mods (corvette zo6 wheels, cooper zeon tires, flowmaster catback, few other)
Mods (corvette zo6 wheels, cooper zeon tires, flowmaster catback, few other)
#19
I am 16 and get my licence in 2 months and I own a 1997 Camaro RS and love it. Sure having a v8 is nice and sometimes I wish I had one, but insurance in Maryland is a huge difference I got quoted $200-300 with my v6 and $400-700 for a ls1 a month (seems outrageous ! ). But anyways I got my car its a 30th anniversary Rallysport for $2000 with 70000 miles every thing was in good shape the t-tops dont even leak but a v8 would also mean higher price. I love driving my car, I think you would love a 4th gen and a 3.8 is surprisingly powerful (will catch second with 10 inch tires)
Mods (corvette zo6 wheels, cooper zeon tires, flowmaster catback, few other)
Mods (corvette zo6 wheels, cooper zeon tires, flowmaster catback, few other)