View Poll Results: Which engine would you get?
patriot's 383 500hp/500tq
2
16.67%
United racing 383 506hp/500tq
0
0%
phoenix muscle car 454 455hp/492-525tq
10
83.33%
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which engine to get for my '81 camaro?
#31
Yes! You'd definitely want to start an engine like that on a hoist, or at least additionally supported by a hoist. Starting any engine on a working engine stand would cause it to flip over the first hit of the throttle if it didn't have extra support above.
#33
ok i will inquire about some kind of warranty even for like 30 days. will that be too much for the street even though its supercharged? and is it true that supercharging requires alot of tuning?
#34
or how about this on ebay? its a 383 with a 150-250 shot of NOS..the seller only used 2 10lb bottles of NOS though it though and its turn key and a great deal. what do you think?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tab%3DWatching
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tab%3DWatching
#35
You could probably do it with a sturdy 4 - 5 point engine cradle. Hell, I can't even spin my sbc's around on my engine stand without them going kinda wonky sometimes.
Last edited by kyphur; 11-02-2009 at 10:32 PM.
#36
Yeah! Try turning even a short block for a BBC on an engine stand! I had some scarey moments when I rebuilt mine on the stand! It definitely tests the strength of a engine stand until I finally decided to beef it up a little with more bracing!
Jason,
I would never buy any engine off Ebay from a private party, unless it was close enough to you to go listen to it. What can you do once it's at your door if there's a problem?
Jason,
I would never buy any engine off Ebay from a private party, unless it was close enough to you to go listen to it. What can you do once it's at your door if there's a problem?
#37
well that blown 468 isn't even running so i couldn't hear that either..would the 600hp be too much on the street?
and i would def need a tranny rated at like 700hp, beefed up driveshaft, upgraded suspension and a 12 bolt rear end to run 600 plus hp
and i would def need a tranny rated at like 700hp, beefed up driveshaft, upgraded suspension and a 12 bolt rear end to run 600 plus hp
#38
ok well im sure that 600hp is too much for the street and ive heard blowers need alot of tuning
so how about these 454's from tuff dawg engines?
450hp 454:
Dear Jason
The pistons are Speed Pro. The heads are cast iron G.M. oval port heads.
Peak TQ is 480 lb's @ 4500RPM's.
The cam has a advertised duration of 290 Int. and 292 ex. Duration @ .050" is 224 Int. and 232 ex. .527" Int. and .553" ex. valve lift. Ground on a 114 Lobe center.
Reconditioned GM crank and rods and elgin pro stock cam
http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_454_450hp_turn.htm
complete turn key for $5500
-OR-
500hph 454 with reconditioned GM rods and crank..iron GM heads, probe pistons,
http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_454_500hp.htm
-OR-
a 460hp 525tq 454 from dominator engines with eagle rods and crank, patriot performance alum heads, comp cam, and probe forged pistons..10.0-1 comp. duration @ .050 224 int 232 exh 527 int 553 exh lift for $5600 turn key
-OR-
patriot performance 496 with 550hp and scat forged rod and crank, howards cam, and patriot alum heads with 10:1 cr
http://www.jegs.com/p/Patriot-Perfor...97266/10002/-1
so how about these 454's from tuff dawg engines?
450hp 454:
Dear Jason
The pistons are Speed Pro. The heads are cast iron G.M. oval port heads.
Peak TQ is 480 lb's @ 4500RPM's.
The cam has a advertised duration of 290 Int. and 292 ex. Duration @ .050" is 224 Int. and 232 ex. .527" Int. and .553" ex. valve lift. Ground on a 114 Lobe center.
Reconditioned GM crank and rods and elgin pro stock cam
http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_454_450hp_turn.htm
complete turn key for $5500
-OR-
500hph 454 with reconditioned GM rods and crank..iron GM heads, probe pistons,
http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_454_500hp.htm
-OR-
a 460hp 525tq 454 from dominator engines with eagle rods and crank, patriot performance alum heads, comp cam, and probe forged pistons..10.0-1 comp. duration @ .050 224 int 232 exh 527 int 553 exh lift for $5600 turn key
-OR-
patriot performance 496 with 550hp and scat forged rod and crank, howards cam, and patriot alum heads with 10:1 cr
http://www.jegs.com/p/Patriot-Perfor...97266/10002/-1
Last edited by jason7504; 11-03-2009 at 04:04 PM.
#39
ok well im sure that 600hp is too much for the street and ive heard blowers need alot of tuning
so how about these 454's from tuff dawg engines?
450hp 454:
Dear Jason
The pistons are Speed Pro. The heads are cast iron G.M. oval port heads.
Peak TQ is 480 lb's @ 4500RPM's.
The cam has a advertised duration of 290 Int. and 292 ex. Duration @ .050" is 224 Int. and 232 ex. .527" Int. and .553" ex. valve lift. Ground on a 114 Lobe center.
Reconditioned GM crank and rods and elgin pro stock cam
http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_454_450hp_turn.htm
complete turn key for $5500
-OR-
500hph 454 with reconditioned GM rods and crank..iron GM heads, probe pistons,
http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_454_500hp.htm
-OR-
a 460hp 525tq 454 from dominator engines with eagle rods and crank, patriot performance alum heads, comp cam, and probe forged pistons..10.0-1 comp. duration @ .050 224 int 232 exh 527 int 553 exh lift for $5600 turn key
-OR-
patriot performance 496 with 550hp and scat forged rod and crank, howards cam, and patriot alum heads with 10:1 cr
http://www.jegs.com/p/Patriot-Perfor...97266/10002/-1
so how about these 454's from tuff dawg engines?
450hp 454:
Dear Jason
The pistons are Speed Pro. The heads are cast iron G.M. oval port heads.
Peak TQ is 480 lb's @ 4500RPM's.
The cam has a advertised duration of 290 Int. and 292 ex. Duration @ .050" is 224 Int. and 232 ex. .527" Int. and .553" ex. valve lift. Ground on a 114 Lobe center.
Reconditioned GM crank and rods and elgin pro stock cam
http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_454_450hp_turn.htm
complete turn key for $5500
-OR-
500hph 454 with reconditioned GM rods and crank..iron GM heads, probe pistons,
http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_454_500hp.htm
-OR-
a 460hp 525tq 454 from dominator engines with eagle rods and crank, patriot performance alum heads, comp cam, and probe forged pistons..10.0-1 comp. duration @ .050 224 int 232 exh 527 int 553 exh lift for $5600 turn key
-OR-
patriot performance 496 with 550hp and scat forged rod and crank, howards cam, and patriot alum heads with 10:1 cr
http://www.jegs.com/p/Patriot-Perfor...97266/10002/-1
Well the Patriot 496 motor is pretty sweet but it's over $7000,a big step up in price over that first 454 which looks to be a pretty nice street engine at a reasonable price.
The Dominator 460hp engine looks to be the bargain of the bunch having the Patriot aluminum heads and an Eagle lower end with forged pistons for about the same price as as the first engine which is mostly stock GM garden variety big block stuff IE cast crank/rods,cast oval port heads.
460 ponnies is more than enough to get ya in trouble lol.
#40
+1 to what Y2K said.
I think the Patriot setup is probably the best bang for your buck but the others aren't something to turn your nose up to either. I think with any of those setups you'll be happy and see a huge difference from your current setup.
I think the Patriot setup is probably the best bang for your buck but the others aren't something to turn your nose up to either. I think with any of those setups you'll be happy and see a huge difference from your current setup.