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Old May 19, 2016 | 07:58 AM
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I'd like to re-do the fuel delivery line from the pump up to the carb. Right now it's rubber fuel line and ugly but it works. The engine is a big block 454, the carb is a 4170. So what I'd like to do is find a chrome or SS hard line that runs up from the pump to near the alternator, connect an inline fuel filter, make the turn, and perhaps add a fuel regulator and fuel pressure gauge, then maybe use a billet fuel rail with AN lines to the carb.

It'd be nice to see if something like this is pre-made and sold as a package, or whether it has to be pieced together. I'll say again the ugly system works, doesn't leak, so this is more about aesthetics but of course it has to work as good as the current junk LOL.

If you have pix of your setups, by all means please post them and lead me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for the help.

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Old May 19, 2016 | 10:57 AM
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4170? Did you mean 4150 (dual inlet) or 4160 (single inlet)?
Pic below shows what I did on mine, got all the parts from Summit. The chrome dual outlet pipe has a filter on the inlet, it's outlet width is adjustable. I then made my own aluminum line and connected it all together using AN fittings.
Fyi, running rubber from the pump to the carb is a dangerous chafed-leaking-burning hose waiting to happen. It's a good thing you're upgrading.

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Old May 19, 2016 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro 69
4170? Did you mean 4150 (dual inlet) or 4160 (single inlet)?
Pic below shows what I did on mine, got all the parts from Summit. The chrome dual outlet pipe has a filter on the inlet, it's outlet width is adjustable. I then made my own aluminum line and connected it all together using AN fittings.
Fyi, running rubber from the pump to the carb is a dangerous chafed-leaking-burning hose waiting to happen. It's a good thing you're upgrading.
My bad... its a 4150 with 870 CFM. Having lived with fuel injected motors for decades... before I buy anything, I figured I'd ask advice. (see pix below).

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So I saw the above (used) setup on eBay for $49.00, could go cheap and buy it or go new and build it. But just wanted to know if this is a decent setup or do I even need a regulator? If not, I could go with a simple chrome "Y" line with a pressure gauge and focus on making the pump to fuel "rail" more robust.

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As you can see in the above picture, this is my main concern... could just replace the plain hose with SS covered hose both on the Fuel IN and OUT, maybe put a nice billet filter up top?

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Old May 19, 2016 | 03:55 PM
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Yeah I forgot to address the regulator, you really don't need one with a mechanical fuel pump. Rubber hose from the supply line to the pump is fine, braided just adds more durability and safety against heat damage or from getting cut. If you add up the sum of the parts of that ebay setup, $50 isn't bad. The finish on the fittings are a little bit beat up though, but still. Depends on what kind of look you're going for.
 
Old May 20, 2016 | 02:46 PM
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That example was just for reference... the more I looked at it the more I didn't like it LOL. I want it to be both safe and attractive, so I'm thinking along the lines of the picture below. I photoshopped it in, didn't get too fussy, but figured I would try to piece something like this together using SS braided fuel line.

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The line from the pump has to be 3/8" right? What about the fittings at the pump... are they standard NPT or -AN? I'm almost sure they're NPT but like I said... I've been into Lightnings and dealing with superchargers, billet fuel rails, injectors and dual pumps in the tank LOL... this is all a step back in time but it'll eventually come back to me. Thanks for the help though.

I have to agree, the '69 is simply the best looking Camaro ever.

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Old May 20, 2016 | 03:06 PM
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Yes 3/8". The fitting on the pump is NPT, you can get an NPT to -AN adapter if going that route. For reference, the AN fittings work off a 1/16" scale, so a -6 AN (what I used) is 6/16" which is 3/8" reduced down.
 
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I forgot to update. So its now braided fuel-specific line from the filter on up, although its on a barb fitting with fake AN clamps. Added the gauge, works nicely, making about 7# pressure. Looks presentable and is safer. Will add the bottom section when I get a chance. Might just go with a better filter that has replaceable element with NPT or AN fittings and do it right.

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