I have a 01 z28 A-4 with low miles.....My buddy has an 03 wrx with an up pipe down pipe and a cat back. It's a 5 speed and he swears up and down that he will take me. I wanan throw some money down to shut him up but i wanna make sure i got a good chance at winning first....Whos your pick for this race?

my money is on that wrx sadly....one of the fastest cars around were i live isa wrx stock [:@]

You should massacre him. LS1 vs a WRX? Please...it would be a close race if he had an STi, but a slightly modified WRX is a still more than likely a kill for a stock LT1. I kept up with a Subaru 2.5 RS that was turbo'd and had some other stuff with my stock LT1, and he was faster than WRX's and could almost keep up with STi's...I'd say your the winner providing you can drive ok...

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my money is on that wrx sadly....one of the fastest cars around were i live isa wrx stock [:@]

There must be dead crawling cars where you live.
A stock WRX (non-STI) will run high 14's on a good day.
An 01 Z/28 should run mid to low 13's, if the driver is not a complete moron.
This should not even be race.

ORIGINAL: My01Z28

I have a 01 z28 A-4 with low miles.....My buddy has an 03 wrx with an up pipe down pipe and a cat back. It's a 5 speed and he swears up and down that he will take me. I wanan throw some money down to shut him up but i wanna make sure i got a good chance at winning first....Whos your pick for this race?



You should put buses on him.

you got this. i ran an 03 turbo (not sti) from a 50 roll and spanked him... if its a dead stop, he might pull you out of the hole, awd, but you will end up putting him in his place.. you most likely have a chance against an sti as well, just make sure the wrx youre running really doesnt have much more done to it.

dont forget, from a dead stop the wrx is gonna wax you... all wheel drive with little spooling time? all you're going to do is roast tires till he gets about 4 cars on you...

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my money is on that wrx sadly....one of the fastest cars around were i live isa wrx stock [:@]

There must be dead crawling cars where you live.
A stock WRX (non-STI) will run high 14's on a good day.
An 01 Z/28 should run mid to low 13's, if the driver is not a complete moron.
This should not even be race.


well yea itsa sti with some 'factory' mods.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5b4d52ce-797e-47e6-929c-988700db0243.htm Camaro :0D

I ran a WRX at the strip and he had the same mods and a laptop sitting on the seat next to him.
He ran 12.2 at 112.

i read an article in 2005? and the wrx performed even with the mustang cobra...if that helps any

why is everyone so scared of the WRX? i am a Subaru tech @ a dealership. a WRX in good shape with a great driver runs a 14.3 stock. the SRT4 ran a 14.2 with FWD only. don't get me wrong i love my subbies but a stock WRX isn't that fast. but they do respond well to bolt ons. now the STi is something to watch , they will roll. 300hp@ 6000rpm and 300 ft tq @4000 rpm.we have a guy that comes in and buys parts that owns a Subby tuning shop. he has a Sti making a dyno provin 503hp. so beware a Sti in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing.

What rear end ratio do you have in your car?

dead thread but I was thinking the STI...those things are par w/ cobras...

finddecent size streach of road to overcome his awd launch make sure its not a sti and you will own his soul

I know this thread is old, but i ran a WRX at a 20 rolla short time ago. The have the AWD and it got the jump on me, but shortly after i pulled on it like crazy. WRX is a decently quick car, but when it comes to a 4th gen. Z or a 99-2007 stang GT, they don't stand a chance, that is, if the WRX is stock. The one i ran had exhaust and intake.

and no i didn't use nitrous lol

the STI would own a stock/nearly stock 4th gen tho

well duh sti is a super banger like the evo but a plain old wrx for a freaking Z i beat one in my 97 V6 for a Z thats easier than pawning off candy on a special kid....

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well duh sti is a super banger like the evo but a plain old wrx for a freaking Z i beat one in my 97 V6 for a Z thats easier than pawning off candy on a special kid....


You had to have beat an Impreza posing as an Impreza WRX...

the non-STI's came w/ 227hp AWD...that would own a V6

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the STI would own a stock/nearly stock 4th gen tho
A stock STI (or Evo for that matter) is a low 13 car, so is the LS1 Fbody. I don't see how a car that runs the same time could be owned. BTW this is only from a dig, a roll race and the LS1 will have a definate advantage as AWD saps a good amount of power.

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the STI would own a stock/nearly stock 4th gen tho
A stock STI (or Evo for that matter) is a low 13 car, so is the LS1 Fbody. I don't see how a car that runs the same time could be owned. BTW this is only from a dig, a roll race and the LS1 will have a definate advantage as AWD saps a good amount of power.


Maybe not 'own' but def beat i would think...I saw this article where a 2005 Cobra and a 2005 STI went head to head....I don't think a stock LS1 can take a Cobra right? The STI and Cobra were pretty much identical in perf...so I'm just cross examining

there have been a few STi's run at our local 1/8th track and the best i have seen from one bone stock is a 8.67.....that's not much faster than my stock LT1 SS. i ran a 8.8 last Friday night.a stock LS1 car is good for a 13.3 1/4, so is the STi ,so with a good driver i see no reason why a stock LS1 car should loose to a STi. and with a few basic bolt-ons a LS1 should kill a STi , sure the STi is going to jump off the line , but the LS1 will run him down on the high end. and the Mustang Cobra is said to run 12.9 stock. i have seen a few running @ the local track and i see no reason why they can't run a 12.9 with a driver that knows how to drive.

I'm 100% all for reardrive V-8 cars with big hairy balls. I hate ta say it however, that WRX would probably win because all the US car makers threw performance out the door until this past year. Meanwhile all the ricer companys made some kick@ss fast cars while the US was sleeping and thinking about how to get more mpg.

1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport 4.7 13.3
1999 Chevrolet Corvette Hardtop 4.8 13.3
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.1 12.5
2002 Chevrolet Corvette (Lingenfelter 427 twin turbo) 1.97 9.24
1999 Ford Mustang GT 5.5 14.1
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
1995 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 5.3 13.9

My g0d, you're right! None of those cars are fast at all!;)

an LS1 SS would beat a STI from a dig in a 1/4 mile, the STI runs 13.6, the 2002 SS runs 13.2, however from a roll the STI would wax the SS.

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an LS1 SS would beat a STI from a dig in a 1/4 mile, the STI runs 13.6, the 2002 SS runs 13.2, however from a roll the STI would wax the SS.

Sorry but the STI's are slower from a roll, the AWD saps power, the only chance an STI has is from a dig because the AWD will give some traction.

i dunno man, when that tubro is spooled up at a 40 roll its gonna hit its peak hp faster than the SS. But however you are right about the AWD, it does take away power in the "long run" and gives the car more weight.

if your talking about weight...those things have to be pretty light right?

not for a four banger, the STI weighs well over 3,000 lbs., not too much light than a standard LT1. The AWD gives it alot of its weight. Plus not to mention it is a sedan, so the 4 door feature is another. And not to mention it is quite roomy in the back of an STI, so that extra space plus the comfortable back seats is another contributor. it is alsoa fairly large v4, 2.5 liter if im not wrong, so yeah it is a fairly heavy car for what it is.

out of all the beaners i have most respect for a subaru b/c of its engineering & performance but thats not saying alot for me b/c idont like anyforeign made cars.

beaners = mexicans

lol

subaru is from Austrailia or Asia...

Subaru is from Japan [sm=bangbang.gif]they are owned by Fuji Heavy Industries. (i am a Subaru Senior Master Tech) the WRX is a quick car for a stock 4 banger with only a 2.0, but the 06 and up have a 2.5 turbo which is bit stonger on low end than the 2.0turbo cars , the Legacy GT has a 2.5L turbo or a 3.0L H6 both engines making 250hp...which isn't alot but the cars are pretty light (they don't have a transfer case for the AWD it is part of the trans). the WRX and the Legacy GT are a really good run. i have also heard word through the grape vine that a Legacy STi is in the works that should make 350- 375 hp. the Forester is also avalible with the 250 hp 2.5L turbo (the XT) and they are a sleeper. little mini suv packin a 250hp awd with a 5spd they are damn quick. and the engines in Subs are H4 and H6's , they are not a V configuration , the weight of the AWD on those cars is not much, the only extra parts are the drive shaft and rear diff. the axles for the front come straight out of the trans.the trans in those ares weighs about the same if not less than a 700R and the engine is aluminum block and heads. the STi has an awesome AWD set up, all three diffs are electronic and the hood and fenders are aluminum for futher weigh reduction.

I still say that a STI will not destroy an LS1 from a roll.

the STi is gonna be strongest right off the line where the AWD can do it's job. the LS1 makes300 ft of tq from 1800rpm up the STi makes maximum torque @ 4000 rpm....which is 300 ft lbs....

sohow did i lay waste to an STI in a slightly modded94 Z? seriously.. do you think he messed up? we did a 55ish roll i started in 2nd , then we did a dig, where he stayed closer, but still behind.. what went wrong for him?

my friends brother in law has a worked STI that dynoed 420 to the wheels. It was crazy fast.He gave me a ride in it when it was bone stock though and it still really suprised me. Itdefinitely felt faster than my Z. I'm guessing he may have missed a gear or just plain sucks and driving a stick, or the car wasn't running right.Sad to say but a STI should definitely beat a lightly modded LT1.

a stock STi will beat a stock LT1 no argument , but it will not beat a LS1 car, they run the same #'s stock. a driver hat knows what he's doing can break in to the high 12's with a stock LS1 car. i have never heard of a STi hitting high 12's factory stock, and deal with alot of STi's (as i stated in a earlier post i am a Subaru tech)

eh beaners, mexicans, hondas, boobaru's they're all the same to me. which means i dont like.

okay, here it is, im not sure about an LS1 but however a bone stock LT1 can beat a STI. However not in a 1/4 mile from a dig,my LT1 lost about a car (this was before i got my cat-back done 2 days ago). Anyways the kid i ran just got a 2004 STI bone stock. The car is fairly quick, however at around 105, 110 mph the AWD eats up that power like crazy! I ran 3 times from a 40 mph roll, the first time i we ran up to 120 mph and beat him by about a car's length, the second time we ran up to 135mph and got him by about 3 cars and the last time we went up to 150mph and had him by 5 or more cars. But with miminal work on an LT1 it should be fairly easy to beat an STI that is if it's an 04-05, the new one's run almost into the 12s!

-02 Z28 here-

what about an impreza sti? theres one around here and I walked all around it and saw nothing that said wrx. All I saw was "Impreza" and "Sti" Are these cars fast? How would my ls1 do against it?

If it says Sti, and it really is an Sti, then it's fast...probably not faster than you, but that's still fast.

An STI is just as fast as your camaro from a dig.

In fact, he would pull on you a couple of car lengths.

Then you would reel him in.

-02 LS1 Z28-

If I had to worry about a lancer evo against me, which one would it be? and should I worry more about a lancer evo in a street race or an sti?

I think, don't hold me to it.

But I think the evo 8 or 9 is a little faster than the STI, like a hair maybe.

But I would worry about them both from a dig.

I THINK there's an VIII(8) rollin around here...

From the research I've done it looks like the IX(9) is the fastest of the EVO's... idk

Yes, the higher the number, is usually relative to how fast it is.

I think there is an Evo MR edition, maybe, it's extremely fast.

Like 370 whp.

Wow, frick the frick out of that...

Until of course I pulled up next to him in my ZL1 Camaro that I wish I had ha!

Well, he still has the AWD function though.

Watchout.

Truuuuuuuue but have you seen any stats for the ZL1? We're talking over 700 hp doing a 9.55 @ 144 in the 1/4

Its a concept camaro that I only wish I had

Wow, sweet.

Hiss...just for future reference the STi doesn't lose much through the AWD. they don't use a t-case , the trans has the front diff. built right in. the 6 Spd they use is based off the TKO 6 spd just with a diff built in. they have axle stubs that come out of the trans and that's where the front axles attach and then a output shaft just like the normal TKO trans. the only significate weigh increase is the weigh if the diff (about 30 lbs) and the weight of the front axles. the STi also has aluminum fenders and an aluminum hood to help offset the weight. they don't lose as much through the drivetrain as a 700R does.....