Dodge Neon SRT-4 Stage 3
#11
03-11-2009, 04:44 PM
No they told me high octane was just premium fuel. None of them were running race fuel or even tuned for it.
#12
03-11-2009, 04:55 PM
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The SRT-4 is recommend for 93 octane from the factory. The higher octane they are talking about is 100+. On a boosted car it allows for more detonation resistance so you can run more PSI with out going boom.
#13
03-11-2009, 05:58 PM
Ahh you were right haha. Their just being dumb and running on 93. 1 of em is running 100 and he explained it better. But those are still some pretty impressive numbers for a FWD 2900 pound car haha.
#15
03-12-2009, 08:29 AM
Any light FWD with a lot of power is a handful, but keep in mind it's nothing like the power that comes from a v8. Launching on the street with a turbo 4 is like launching with an n/a 100hp engine, and then once you're rolling, the power comes on as the turbo spools. Unfortunately, the 2.4 is too big of a motor for the turbo they put in them stock, so they spool too fast for an inexperienced driver, and you usually just see them spin.
That's why they are feared from a roll. Plenty of power, and you don't have to be able to control the car. Just know how to shift and steer. Put that same power curve to a RWD, and watch the average driver go a full second faster in the 1/4 mile. But if the driver actually knows how to handle the power of a S3 SRT, expect a stock LS1 to be pointed at tail lights.
Us FWD turbo guys that actually go fast have learned how to work with the limitations of FWD. I'm in the process (With some help from a code guru) of building a speed sensor-based boost controller, so when I'm doing 40mph in 1st, I'm only making 12psi, then to 70 or so, 23psi, and then at the real top end, up to 35psi. It's progressive, but those are just some expected points, and I'll be able to tune it based on the traction I'll be getting. With 250 ft/lb, I was able to tear away 2nd gear on the street with ease, but with some control over the power, I was still able to pull 1.71 60' times. With some extra chassis toys, I'm expecting to pull low 1.6 times, possibly even to the high 1.5s. Go to the track and look for the average ricer boy to make better than a 2.2. Doubt you see one. If you see a FWD doing better than 2.0, they know how to drive it.
That's why they are feared from a roll. Plenty of power, and you don't have to be able to control the car. Just know how to shift and steer. Put that same power curve to a RWD, and watch the average driver go a full second faster in the 1/4 mile. But if the driver actually knows how to handle the power of a S3 SRT, expect a stock LS1 to be pointed at tail lights.
Us FWD turbo guys that actually go fast have learned how to work with the limitations of FWD. I'm in the process (With some help from a code guru) of building a speed sensor-based boost controller, so when I'm doing 40mph in 1st, I'm only making 12psi, then to 70 or so, 23psi, and then at the real top end, up to 35psi. It's progressive, but those are just some expected points, and I'll be able to tune it based on the traction I'll be getting. With 250 ft/lb, I was able to tear away 2nd gear on the street with ease, but with some control over the power, I was still able to pull 1.71 60' times. With some extra chassis toys, I'm expecting to pull low 1.6 times, possibly even to the high 1.5s. Go to the track and look for the average ricer boy to make better than a 2.2. Doubt you see one. If you see a FWD doing better than 2.0, they know how to drive it.
#17
03-26-2009, 05:43 PM
i've never had the chance to race an SRT4 with my current setup, but i love those cars. im planning on buying one in the next few years.
a few friends of mine own them and they can be fast as f*ck. scary fast with big turbo applications.
a few friends of mine own them and they can be fast as f*ck. scary fast with big turbo applications.
#18
03-30-2009, 05:16 AM
Any light FWD with a lot of power is a handful, but keep in mind it's nothing like the power that comes from a v8. Launching on the street with a turbo 4 is like launching with an n/a 100hp engine, and then once you're rolling, the power comes on as the turbo spools. Unfortunately, the 2.4 is too big of a motor for the turbo they put in them stock, so they spool too fast for an inexperienced driver, and you usually just see them spin.
That's why they are feared from a roll. Plenty of power, and you don't have to be able to control the car. Just know how to shift and steer. Put that same power curve to a RWD, and watch the average driver go a full second faster in the 1/4 mile. But if the driver actually knows how to handle the power of a S3 SRT, expect a stock LS1 to be pointed at tail lights.
Us FWD turbo guys that actually go fast have learned how to work with the limitations of FWD. I'm in the process (With some help from a code guru) of building a speed sensor-based boost controller, so when I'm doing 40mph in 1st, I'm only making 12psi, then to 70 or so, 23psi, and then at the real top end, up to 35psi. It's progressive, but those are just some expected points, and I'll be able to tune it based on the traction I'll be getting. With 250 ft/lb, I was able to tear away 2nd gear on the street with ease, but with some control over the power, I was still able to pull 1.71 60' times. With some extra chassis toys, I'm expecting to pull low 1.6 times, possibly even to the high 1.5s. Go to the track and look for the average ricer boy to make better than a 2.2. Doubt you see one. If you see a FWD doing better than 2.0, they know how to drive it.
That's why they are feared from a roll. Plenty of power, and you don't have to be able to control the car. Just know how to shift and steer. Put that same power curve to a RWD, and watch the average driver go a full second faster in the 1/4 mile. But if the driver actually knows how to handle the power of a S3 SRT, expect a stock LS1 to be pointed at tail lights.
Us FWD turbo guys that actually go fast have learned how to work with the limitations of FWD. I'm in the process (With some help from a code guru) of building a speed sensor-based boost controller, so when I'm doing 40mph in 1st, I'm only making 12psi, then to 70 or so, 23psi, and then at the real top end, up to 35psi. It's progressive, but those are just some expected points, and I'll be able to tune it based on the traction I'll be getting. With 250 ft/lb, I was able to tear away 2nd gear on the street with ease, but with some control over the power, I was still able to pull 1.71 60' times. With some extra chassis toys, I'm expecting to pull low 1.6 times, possibly even to the high 1.5s. Go to the track and look for the average ricer boy to make better than a 2.2. Doubt you see one. If you see a FWD doing better than 2.0, they know how to drive it.
#19
03-30-2009, 08:46 PM
It's doing good. I just have to bore out an under-spec differential, but I just dropped in a clutch strong enough to rip Chuck Norris's beard out, and got the fuel system to the point that it would make over 1200hp on gasoline with a primary and secondary pump with a surge tank.
I've already driven it up to around 18psi, and it's downright scary. I still haven't come within 1200RPM of redline, and that's only half the boost it will run at the track, but it's fighting for traction on the street at 80 with 15psi.
The only thing I'm missing is the driver's license, but that gets fixed in a week or so. No, I didn't do something dumb. The county court just didn't get the right paperwork for a court supervision from my lawyer.
I've already driven it up to around 18psi, and it's downright scary. I still haven't come within 1200RPM of redline, and that's only half the boost it will run at the track, but it's fighting for traction on the street at 80 with 15psi.
The only thing I'm missing is the driver's license, but that gets fixed in a week or so. No, I didn't do something dumb. The county court just didn't get the right paperwork for a court supervision from my lawyer.
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