Metroplex Shops Reading '91 Codes
#3
And why do they have to flash anyway? Was this car built back when people played Farmville by Morse Code? This whole thing sounds like a nightmare.
A) How does one flash for codes?
B) What do the flashes mean?
C) What exactly flashes?
#4
A) These are the instructions for a 93 but the 91 will work the same.
http://shbox.com/1/dlc2.jpg
You have a 21 year old car and things have changed a lot since it was built, and there are not too many left running. Therefore, many shops got rid of the old test equipment or do not want to get involved. However, it is not nearly a nightmare as you my think. Of course if you are an emperor, as you indicate, then you should just go ahead and command that your car be fixed. lol
B) Counting the flashes gives the DTC number. The DTC number tells what the ECM is complaining about. An OBDI chart for your car translates the numbers to English.
C) The check engine lamps flashes and you need to count the flashes.
http://shbox.com/1/dlc2.jpg
You have a 21 year old car and things have changed a lot since it was built, and there are not too many left running. Therefore, many shops got rid of the old test equipment or do not want to get involved. However, it is not nearly a nightmare as you my think. Of course if you are an emperor, as you indicate, then you should just go ahead and command that your car be fixed. lol
B) Counting the flashes gives the DTC number. The DTC number tells what the ECM is complaining about. An OBDI chart for your car translates the numbers to English.
C) The check engine lamps flashes and you need to count the flashes.
Last edited by z28pete; 02-14-2012 at 10:58 PM.
#5
A) These are the instructions for a 93 but the 91 will work the same.
http://shbox.com/1/dlc2.jpg
You have a 21 year old car and things have changed a lot since it was built, and there are not too many left running. Therefore, many shops got rid of the old test equipment or do not want to get involved. However, it is not nearly a nightmare as you my think. Of course if you are an emperor, as you indicate, then you should just go ahead and command that your car be fixed. lol
B) Counting the flashes gives the DTC number. The DTC number tells what the ECM is complaining about. An OBDI chart for your car translates the numbers to English.
C) The check engine lamps flashes and you need to count the flashes.
http://shbox.com/1/dlc2.jpg
You have a 21 year old car and things have changed a lot since it was built, and there are not too many left running. Therefore, many shops got rid of the old test equipment or do not want to get involved. However, it is not nearly a nightmare as you my think. Of course if you are an emperor, as you indicate, then you should just go ahead and command that your car be fixed. lol
B) Counting the flashes gives the DTC number. The DTC number tells what the ECM is complaining about. An OBDI chart for your car translates the numbers to English.
C) The check engine lamps flashes and you need to count the flashes.
Here. I'll make a confession. I'm an automotive neophyte. I love my car. I recognize it's a gift from God and I haven't been a good steward of it. It's not because I have a bad heart, but a very callow understanding. Please explain things in simple terms.
Here. I got this from Camaro 69:
http://www.troublecodes.net/GM/90-91_31V_mfi.shtml
So after it runs a Code 12, apparently, I count the number of flashes to get the trouble code. If the check engine light flashes 66 times, then that means have an A/C pressure sensor problem -- correct?
Are there short flashes, dashes, and long flashes? I wasn't kidding when I alluded to Morse Code earlier. Am I going to have to count those as well, or are all the flashes of one type?
And where can I get a paper clip?
#6
In OBD1 cars like yours the DTC is comprised of two digits, newer OBD2 cars the DTC is comprised of one letter followed by four digits.
Don't confuse flashes and pauses, there are no long flashes, just long pauses. Long pauses indicate indicate the end of a DTC, short pauses indicate the end of a digit. So if the DTC is 66 the lamp will flash (1 2) (6 6) (1 2) or start DTC end.
And you are correct, DTC 66 indicates a problem with the refrigerant pressure sensor. Could be faulty wiring or a faulty sensor.
As for the paper clip, you may just have to break down and go to a store and buy one. Of course, if you can get posession of an OBD1 scanner you wouldn't have to worry about all this sillyness. lol
Don't confuse flashes and pauses, there are no long flashes, just long pauses. Long pauses indicate indicate the end of a DTC, short pauses indicate the end of a digit. So if the DTC is 66 the lamp will flash (1 2) (6 6) (1 2) or start DTC end.
And you are correct, DTC 66 indicates a problem with the refrigerant pressure sensor. Could be faulty wiring or a faulty sensor.
As for the paper clip, you may just have to break down and go to a store and buy one. Of course, if you can get posession of an OBD1 scanner you wouldn't have to worry about all this sillyness. lol
#7
In OBD1 cars like yours the DTC is comprised of two digits, newer OBD2 cars the DTC is comprised of one letter followed by four digits.
Don't confuse flashes and pauses, there are no long flashes, just long pauses. Long pauses indicate indicate the end of a DTC, short pauses indicate the end of a digit. So if the DTC is 66 the lamp will flash (1 2) (6 6) (1 2) or start DTC end.
Don't confuse flashes and pauses, there are no long flashes, just long pauses. Long pauses indicate indicate the end of a DTC, short pauses indicate the end of a digit. So if the DTC is 66 the lamp will flash (1 2) (6 6) (1 2) or start DTC end.
So wait. Let's use the example of Code 66.
If it's a code 66, the check engine light will do the following:
Flash. Short Pause. Flash. Flash. Long Pause (Code 12)
Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Short Pause. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Long Pause. (Code 66)
Flash. Short Pause. Flash. Flash. Long Pause (Code 12)
Is that how it's going to work?
EDIT: What are the intervals for short pauses and long pauses? Because the first one I see could be either.
#8
heres a video on how to do it ignore the key thing thats only for chryslers just pay attention on how to count the code
Auto Repair: Chrysler OBD-1 Trouble Code Tutorial - YouTube
Auto Repair: Chrysler OBD-1 Trouble Code Tutorial - YouTube
#9
So wait. Let's use the example of Code 66.
If it's a code 66, the check engine light will do the following:
Flash. Short Pause. Flash. Flash. Long Pause (Code 12)
Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Short Pause. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Long Pause. (Code 66)
Flash. Short Pause. Flash. Flash. Long Pause (Code 12)
Is that how it's going to work?
EDIT: What are the intervals for short pauses and long pauses? Because the first one I see could be either.
If it's a code 66, the check engine light will do the following:
Flash. Short Pause. Flash. Flash. Long Pause (Code 12)
Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Short Pause. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Flash. Long Pause. (Code 66)
Flash. Short Pause. Flash. Flash. Long Pause (Code 12)
Is that how it's going to work?
EDIT: What are the intervals for short pauses and long pauses? Because the first one I see could be either.
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