Turbo Camaro?
#1
Turbo Camaro?
I need some serious help. I do not have the money to swap in a v8 nor do i have the right knowlege to do a head/intake swap. I am just going to do a turbo set up. Dont tell me my stock enging wont take it. Ive learned that my stock engine can take up to 7psi. So thats what im looking for. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A WASTEGATE DOES NOR A BLOW OFF VALVE. so please some one educate me...thanks ;]
#3
it depends on what your're looking for. Like for me im only looking for the amount of boost that my engine can handle. Plus i work at a junk yard. so what i was planning on doing was getting a turbo from an old volvo and fabricating it to my car. Ive read articles and heard of it being done. I just need to know how.
#4
not sure, but you will probably need to get a cam done for your car to run proper.
this should answer your question on the BOV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowoff_valve
the wastegate is what's going to control your boost pressure. the stiffer it is, the higher the boost will build. with my diesels, i'm used to running +20 lbs of boost no problem. 7 psi should be fairly easy to pull out of a turbo. being a gasser though, you will want to make sure that your setup is precise. you don't want to much boost being forced into your engine, see BOV article. im not sure what the PCM is like on a 3.4, but you will probably need to get that adjusted accordingly too.
it won't be just a simple matter of bolting it up. your are going to need custom manifolds to bring the exhaust to the turbo, oil lines, and depending on the turbo, a way to properly tap vacuum lines. i don't know what you drive like, but a pyrometer and a boost gauge are essential in my opinion. keep track of your egt's pre-turbo, and find out what point meltdown happens at. the gauge might cost a little bit, but try running without one and sending shrapnel down your intake and it will be more expensive in the long run. if you are building for performance, check the turbo's out closely to find out what is going to suit you best. different pitches, different compressors and exducers, they will all factor into the picture. i have a spare turbo from a truck sitting on my shelf that i could rig up i am sure, but i think it would be pushing way to much air. some push way more air than others. keep that in mind.
not to discourage you, there is just a lot of work involved, and from what i have read, the 3.4 is not exactly a performance minded engine. ensure you have everything figured out as much as you can before you even touch the engine. good luck.
this should answer your question on the BOV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowoff_valve
the wastegate is what's going to control your boost pressure. the stiffer it is, the higher the boost will build. with my diesels, i'm used to running +20 lbs of boost no problem. 7 psi should be fairly easy to pull out of a turbo. being a gasser though, you will want to make sure that your setup is precise. you don't want to much boost being forced into your engine, see BOV article. im not sure what the PCM is like on a 3.4, but you will probably need to get that adjusted accordingly too.
it won't be just a simple matter of bolting it up. your are going to need custom manifolds to bring the exhaust to the turbo, oil lines, and depending on the turbo, a way to properly tap vacuum lines. i don't know what you drive like, but a pyrometer and a boost gauge are essential in my opinion. keep track of your egt's pre-turbo, and find out what point meltdown happens at. the gauge might cost a little bit, but try running without one and sending shrapnel down your intake and it will be more expensive in the long run. if you are building for performance, check the turbo's out closely to find out what is going to suit you best. different pitches, different compressors and exducers, they will all factor into the picture. i have a spare turbo from a truck sitting on my shelf that i could rig up i am sure, but i think it would be pushing way to much air. some push way more air than others. keep that in mind.
not to discourage you, there is just a lot of work involved, and from what i have read, the 3.4 is not exactly a performance minded engine. ensure you have everything figured out as much as you can before you even touch the engine. good luck.
#5
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Unless you can custom fab steel and have a machine shop tucked away somewhere the turbo will cost WAY more then a then a V8 convertion. You figure out how to do it for less you will be the hero of the V6 4th gen guys.
Second unless you just rebuilt your motor there is no way you can know if your motor can handle any boost. Head gaskets are weak spots on the 3.4 and they are the first thing to give out on a turbo car. Step one to any turbo job is remove and check heads, buy better head gaskets then stock and better head bolts. That is concidered the bare min for a turbo upgrade.
Someone has it in their sig, Cheap/Fast/Reliable you can only have two.
Second unless you just rebuilt your motor there is no way you can know if your motor can handle any boost. Head gaskets are weak spots on the 3.4 and they are the first thing to give out on a turbo car. Step one to any turbo job is remove and check heads, buy better head gaskets then stock and better head bolts. That is concidered the bare min for a turbo upgrade.
Someone has it in their sig, Cheap/Fast/Reliable you can only have two.
#6
I myself am a turbo lover but in my opinion I would say a supercharger would be the best (cheapest) way to go for you. I don't know much about the camaros yet but I know that chevy made a supercharged monte carlo that would be your cheapest route, I do believe. it might even bolt right up! again I don't know a lot about the chevy's but that sounds right to me.
#7
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
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I myself am a turbo lover but in my opinion I would say a supercharger would be the best (cheapest) way to go for you. I don't know much about the camaros yet but I know that chevy made a supercharged monte carlo that would be your cheapest route, I do believe. it might even bolt right up! again I don't know a lot about the chevy's but that sounds right to me.
Last edited by Gorn; 10-11-2009 at 09:04 PM.
#9
Why wouldn't you do some of your own research on a BOV or Wastegate? There is a abundance of information online. Look at how many boosted cars there are on the streets?!
Just drive the Car as it is, after it's fixed, and save your $$$.
Just drive the Car as it is, after it's fixed, and save your $$$.
#10
If you really want to go turbo look up the squire turbo setup or google sts its a do it yourself kit rear mount turbo I've seen it on v6 camaros [plural for a reason] here in vegas and you can adjust it to stay at 7lbs but I would definitely consider lowering compression of motor and using steel gaskets