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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Is therr supposed to be an air pump on a 3.4 the book said its behind the coil packs but theres nothing behind them and I cant find the evap canister
 
Old Dec 28, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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Only manual transmission cars had the smog pump and it was electric motor-driven, not belt.
When the canister purge solenoid is mounted on the intake bracket, the electrical connector is at the top. Then the port to manifold vacuum comes next. The port to the charcoal canister is at the bottom.
I think the charcoal canister is mounted inside the left fender at the front but i'm not positive.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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OK ive checked all the lines on the top of the motor and there all good the iac asnd tps have ben replaced and when i put my hand over the intake it still runs is it possable the the intake gasket is bad the person I got the car form tok the intake off and didnt replace the gasket
 

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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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It sure is possible that the gasket tore when the upper intake was removed. Everything having to do with that upper intake is a big PITA. There is no room to work, top to botttom. The back bolts are nasty to get at and you *can't* remove them once they're loosened -- you have to slide the upper intake out with the bolts in their bores. That's an easy way to catch the gasket and rip it.
You'll have to depressurize the fuel system, disconnect the fuel pipes (need a pair of special tools), and remove the fuel rail/injectors before you can remove the upper intake. Then you'll be looking at the gasket:
 
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1augapfel
It sure is possible that the gasket tore when the upper intake was removed. Everything having to do with that upper intake is a big PITA. There is no room to work, top to botttom. The back bolts are nasty to get at and you *can't* remove them once they're loosened -- you have to slide the upper intake out with the bolts in their bores. That's an easy way to catch the gasket and rip it.
You'll have to depressurize the fuel system, disconnect the fuel pipes (need a pair of special tools), and remove the fuel rail/injectors before you can remove the upper intake. Then you'll be looking at the gasket:
Ive taken the fuel rail off befor how much more work is it for the rest
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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The fuel rail/injectors are the worst part. After that you're scraping the tops of your hands as you loosen the upper intake bolts. And of course the throttle cable, sensor wiring, intake air duct, etc.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Could the rong firing order cause it to idle high
 
Old Dec 30, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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No. It would idle too slow.
The computer is looking at RPM and operating the IAC stepper motor to keep the idle speed where it belongs (about 700 RPM). If the idle is way high the IAC isn't moving, it can't close all the way, or air is getting into the engine somewhere else.
Pull the air inlet duct and look at the throttle blade. The blade look like it is tightly closed. If it isn't find out why. See the pic.
The throttle cable could be damaged or hooked up wrong. Same is true for the transmission cable.
Or someone may have messed with the minimum idle screw. Is the plug covering the screw gone?
I've seen yoyos do awful things to a throttle body to "fix" an idle problem. Like bend the throttle blade to let more air by.
But, again, the hissing you first mentioned does indicate a vacuum leak so you should find out where that noise is coming from.
 
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