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Old 01-06-2011, 08:37 PM
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One down, one to go. I would actually start with waving $1k in his face, and slowly work your way up to $1,200.
People say one thing, but can mean another when they start to smell the green stuff.
 
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BasicConcepts
Warning check the floor boards. The 2nd gens have an issue with doors sag, Door sag= water leak. Water leak= No metal floor. I have seen several 2nd gens that had carpet floor boards, owners had no idea it was roted away. The rest of the car can look great but when you pull the carpet your looking at your driveway.
 
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorn
Warning check the floor boards. The 2nd gens have an issue with doors sag, Door sag= water leak. Water leak= No metal floor. I have seen several 2nd gens that had carpet floor boards, owners had no idea it was roted away. The rest of the car can look great but when you pull the carpet your looking at your driveway.
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Old 01-07-2011, 02:03 AM
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so the 327 never came in the 78 camaro according to my research its a 5.4L and can have anywhere from 210 - 375 HP... wow what a gap now if i get the car ill need to do some hard research i have no idea what year this engine is and ill have some serious questions ive never owned a carburated car (many carburated small engines tho) he said something about double hump or bump heads... what does that mean (if it means anything at all)... wow i want this car so bad its keeping me up lol and i have to be to work in 5 hrs

also i didnt see any Z28 badges on the car so im assuming it came with a 305 but the exterior of the car has been completely stripped so maybe it had a 350 ill have to check the codes

one more thing what would i be able to do with this engine
 

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Old 01-07-2011, 08:18 AM
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The stock V8 options for the 78 were a 305 and a 350. Doesn't matter what engine the car "came" with. If he's being truthful about saying it has a 327, then the engine has been replaced, which isn't out of the realm of possibility at all.
But you want to check the numbers to make sure, as physically they don't look different.
Check this info out: http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-ca...oding-help.asp
The same block was used for the 302, 327, 350, so the casting numbers in back won't tell you what engine it is. But the suffix code in front of the passenger side head will: http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-ca...gine-codes.asp.
Double hump (also called camel hump, or fuelie heads) are a performance head from back in the day. There were more than one casting, having either the 2.02/1.60 valves, or the 1.94/1.50 valves. The casting number is under the valve cover, and you can look those up at the chevy-camaro site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1m1cKZkP60
 
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:22 AM
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A quick way to tell if you have the 2.02 or the 1.94 valves is to check the distance between the humps. If a dime will fit they are usually 2.02 and a nickle is 1.94. This will give you an idea of the heads. This does not always hold true but usually close enough, check the numbers to make positive. On a side note there are no accessory mounting holes in camel hump heads, which makes finding mounting brackets a little harder.

327s came in 2 versions, Large and small journal. This described the diameter of the crank journals. The early 327s had small journals (same as previous small blocks) and GM found that the engine could generate enough horse power to break the crank or block with only slight modifications above factory. They redesigned the crank and block (I think the crank got 1/4" larger diameter) to beef it up. This journal size has been used ever since. The engine started life in 1962 and remained in production until the late 60's, and it also produced more HP than any other small block untill the new LS6 came out.

I used to own a 327, it was stuffed in a 1960 Chev short step, I had progressive tri-power, 2.02 camel humps. My block was out of a 68 Camaro (large journal) and my heads were from a 69 SS 302 Camaro (my block could have been as well but my casting date should have put it in a 68 not a 69), I could get 20 mpg if I drove it nice and I could watch the needle drop if I was playing with all 3 carbs. It was a fun engine and I wish now that I still had it. Of all the small blocks the 327 is my favorite!

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thanx for the info guys but it seems im not going to be able to get this one i cant get the loan i needed i did sell my car today 350$ i know i could have got more but it was starting to get a little depressing looking at it all day at work

on a better note im deff still looking for a camaro and i really like the 2nd gens and if the 327 is that nice ill just get a 305 and put in the 327 ive seen them on craigslist for like 300 with a trans
 

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Old 01-07-2011, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Massey
On a side note there are no accessory mounting holes in camel hump heads, which makes finding mounting brackets a little harder.
That's on the 1967 and older vintage heads. The video I posted shows the accessory holes on the one set of heads. Just sayin!
 
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Old 01-07-2011, 04:07 PM
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I posted that before I checked out the video. I never knew they made camel humps with mounting holes. Good to know

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Old 01-07-2011, 04:15 PM
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the heads were the second ones in the vid
 



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