Paint/body work question
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I did assume it was one of those cheap one pc aftermarket fiberglass hoods. If it a metal hood and someone adding the schope it will just need redone.
There is a store on Ebay that has lots of used Camaro parts. I have seen fenders, chasis, engline blocks and every other part at it. I can't remember the name for the life of me right now, but I'll try to find it.
Edit:
Found it, doesn't look like they have any hoods though..
http://stores.ebay.com/Fparts
Nonetheless, a cool store.
Edit:
Found it, doesn't look like they have any hoods though..
http://stores.ebay.com/Fparts
Nonetheless, a cool store.
Last edited by Failed Devices; Aug 20, 2010 at 10:50 PM.
A lot of aftermarket scoops are plastic, so you might not even be dealing with a glass scoop. You need to strip all the paint off before you can evaluate what's hiding. To me, it looks like a poor job feathering the scoop to the hood. And the paint cracking is most likely from the body filler not being given enough time to weather (expand and contract). Doing a bonding job like that, using an amount of bondo/filler, and painting it right away, is a bad idea and gives results like you have there. I've bonded glass to metal fenders before, and it lasted a good number of years. The problem with a hood is it gets stressed every time you slam it shut, or open it and tweak it a little. The glass bond to the metal will start to separate and eventually crack the paint. If you plan on keeping the scoop on and fixing it, after it's repainted start to practice closing the hood gently and pushing down to latch it.
I've restored a few C3 Vettes, and have done my share of glass work. For the record, those Vette's didn't have a gelcoat finish, they were bare fiberglass. But aftermarket hand laid glass panels do have a gelcoat finish. In 73, GM started using a different process called sheet molded compound, which were still fiberglass based but had a much smoother finish from the 72 and older, and could be mistaken as being gelcoated. With those type of panels, you want to use an epoxy based resin to repair it. I have a feeling your scoop may have been bonded on using regular fiberglass resin, like what's found in most parts stores. To bond to metal, I would trust the epoxy resin over the conventional. Then there's the issue of how the scoop was put on to begin with. If it was simply set on the hood and then glassed over to the metal, then that's another problem. The scoop should have been glued to the hood using an epoxy panel adhesive such as 3M brand. That stuff can be used to bond metal to metal panels as well, and holds just as solid as welding does. To avoid any future cracking, you would be best off removing the scoop and putting it back on with an adhesive and then glassing it in the right way. From the looks of it, the job wasn't done right and you'll just be trying to fix someone elses bad work.
I've restored a few C3 Vettes, and have done my share of glass work. For the record, those Vette's didn't have a gelcoat finish, they were bare fiberglass. But aftermarket hand laid glass panels do have a gelcoat finish. In 73, GM started using a different process called sheet molded compound, which were still fiberglass based but had a much smoother finish from the 72 and older, and could be mistaken as being gelcoated. With those type of panels, you want to use an epoxy based resin to repair it. I have a feeling your scoop may have been bonded on using regular fiberglass resin, like what's found in most parts stores. To bond to metal, I would trust the epoxy resin over the conventional. Then there's the issue of how the scoop was put on to begin with. If it was simply set on the hood and then glassed over to the metal, then that's another problem. The scoop should have been glued to the hood using an epoxy panel adhesive such as 3M brand. That stuff can be used to bond metal to metal panels as well, and holds just as solid as welding does. To avoid any future cracking, you would be best off removing the scoop and putting it back on with an adhesive and then glassing it in the right way. From the looks of it, the job wasn't done right and you'll just be trying to fix someone elses bad work.
Last edited by Camaro 69; Aug 20, 2010 at 11:21 PM.
The hood is factory. The scoop was added and I don't know what it is made from. It's bolted on from what I can tell from under the hood. I also do close the hood gently. Let it come down slowly, latch, then push it all the way down. I try not to slam anything closed on my car for fear of stuff falling apart. I'm thinking of just trying to fix it myself, then getting a carbon fiber hood to replace it sometime next year maybe.
Last edited by DarlingReject; Aug 21, 2010 at 02:05 AM.
Haha maybe. I was thinking about taking her to Baps to get a color match done at least. I don't know what craptastic paint is on there now because it's not factory.
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There is a store on Ebay that has lots of used Camaro parts. I have seen fenders, chasis, engline blocks and every other part at it. I can't remember the name for the life of me right now, but I'll try to find it.
Edit:
Found it, doesn't look like they have any hoods though..
http://stores.ebay.com/Fparts
Nonetheless, a cool store.
Edit:
Found it, doesn't look like they have any hoods though..
http://stores.ebay.com/Fparts
Nonetheless, a cool store.
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