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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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The 3.8 is (and always has been) a 90º block. How do you get that to bolt up to a 60º bellhousing?
 
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Here are some of the different bellhousings GM has used. THe first shows the Chevy and BOPC housing (BOPC has the dip at the top chevy has the point) The second is a universal pattern usually only found on PowerGlide's and some early TH350s. The 3rd one is the GM 60º pattern found on alot of smaller GM engines and the last one shows the bellhousing installed on an LS1 engine. Also want to note that the Dodge Dakota 2.5L 5sp 95-00 housings will fit the GM 60º engines, and some Toyota Transmissions.

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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro 69
The 3.8 is (and always has been) a 90º block. How do you get that to bolt up to a 60º bellhousing?
He is right, with the seires 3.8 II motor GM switched it over to the 60º blolt pattern. In FWD cars the 3.4 and 3.8 can be swapped. It only makes sence, why have two V6 bolt patterns.

But I do not think they are interchangable in the camaro due to the different release bearing setups.
 

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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Here is a picture of a 231 with the BOPC bell. This one also has a distrubutor in the front of the engine behind the water pump.

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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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GM Bellhousing Bolt Patterns
The General Motors corporation was responsible for producing seven common bellhousing patterns. Allot of engine types shared bolt patterns but several were also exclusive to their own engine family. Below you will find information on which engine uses which bellhousing bolt pattern. You may ask yourself "why do I care about this information?" Well as any true hot roder will know, engine swaps are one of the best ways to make your vehicle the best one of the bunch. But in these cases you may not be so inclined to swap out a perfectly good transmission and drivetrain. So with the information below you can choose any engine that will bolt to your transmission or even figure out which vehicle and engine combination to look for when shopping for a transmission in a junkyard.
Bellhousing Engines Chevrolet bolt pattern. Used on all Chevrolet V8's to this date. Also used on Chevrolet 90degree V6'sSmall Block Chevy, Big Block Chevy, 3.8L (229ci) V6 (not to be confused with Buick 3.8L), 4.3L V6
Buick, Olds, Pontiac, Cadillac (BOP) bolt pattern Used on all Buick, Olds, Pontiac and Cadillac's until the cars switched to Chevrolet engines.Buick, Olds, Pontiac and Cadillac V8's, 4.1L (255ci) V6, 3.8L(231ci) V6,
GM Small Corporate Pattern Used on Chevy 60 degree V6's, 4 cylinders and other FWD engines2.0L (OHV I4), 2.2L (OHV I4), 2.5L (OHV "Iron Duke" I4), 2.8L (60* V6), 3.0L (90* V6), 3.1L & 3100 (60* V6), 3.3L & 3300 (90* V6), 3.4 & 3400 (60* V6), 3500 (60* V6), 3.6L (60* V6), 3800 (90*V6), 3.9L (60* V6), 4.1L V8, 4.5L V8, 4.9L V8
GM Ecotec 4 Cylinder A late 90's GM 4 Cylinder used across several FWD car lines. An all aluminum engine featuring impressive technology and modern design. 2.0L, 2.2L, 2.4L
GM 4 Cylinder Pattern Unique to a select line of GM 4 cylinder front wheel drive engines.2.3L (SOHC I4), 2.3L ("Quad Four" DOHC I4), 2.4L ("Twin Cam" DOHC I4)
Cadillac Northstar Pattern A breed of Cadillac V8's that feature dual overhead cams. Some versions feature variable valve timing as well. 4.0L (Oldsmobile engine built by Cadillac and based on Northstar), 4.6L V8
Isuzu 4 Cylinder Used in cars and trucks such as the Chevrolet Nova and the Chevrolet S-10. This 4 cylinder from Japan found its way into a few GM vehicles. 1.6L, 1.8L, 1.9L, 2.0L


Here is an article I found on some website and I cut and pasted it here. It explains alot about GM bellhousings.

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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Now you're making it all the more cornfusing dragging all the B.O.P. specs into it!
My original point (to craby's response) was referring to the 3.4 and 3.8 (231) not matching the 5.7 Chevy bellhousing. Damn snowball effect!
But I didn't know the 90º 3.8 has a 60º bellhousing pattern. Gotta file that in the ol' gray matter. Now where should I put it, I'm runnin' outta room!!
 
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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wow thatll teach ya.
 
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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Heh, heh...I just hope my mental filing system doesn't start doing an "archival flush".
Out with the old....in with the new! Now, where were we? lol
 




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