I've seen ones in my area go for 15k with about 28-40k miles.
They were mint condition, dunno about upgrades though.

 

yea, maybe the 16.5k i was offerin was to high, i hate when the creidit union guy is right, haha, just am pumped i got approved and i just want my car now, and i feel like 16.5 is reasonable, cause that is what everyone is for like 18, but then again, thats what they are asking, not what it is sellin for, my financing dude thinks i should offer 14 and my mom is cosignin and she agrees so she wont sign without offering 14, so now i feel like an idiot...haha