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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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I want to get a supercharger and blower kit for a stock 5 liter. Is this possible. If so does anyone know what kind I should get. And will a supercharger work on an engine thats not carburated engines?? I just want a lot of Horse with a stock 5 liter 305. thanks in advance to any advice
 
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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if its got a tpi, a supercharger will work on it, my friend just put one on his iroc and its got the ram jet 350
 
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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does he have a blower to or just the supercharger. I read somewhere that a blower can be to powerful and screw it up somehow.
 
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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no blower, just s.c., but the bad thing about it is hes still got the stock tranny and rearend, so he doesnt put the power he has to the ground
 
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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but if your gonna do the s.c. make sure you do something with your drivetrain, cause my friends motor alone is 350 hp and with the s.c. he is around 500, but hes not as quick as he should be with the stock drivetrain.
 
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:29 AM
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Either a blower or a supercharger will blow up your engine if you use too much boost. Make sure the rest of the car is up to the job, and that the car is properly reinforced so that it does not get twisted all up like pretzel during launch. Really messes up your ET, especially if your drive train breaks.
 
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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What's the difference between a Blower and a Supercharger? I thought a Blower was a supercharger. I know there are different types of Superchargers, but aren't they still Superchargers?

I've heard of a version of the 700R4 tranny called "Raptor", would that be strong enough to handle a supercharger?
 
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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There are basically 3 typer of superchargers.

Centrifugal, where a high sped impeller throws the air aginst the housing where it gets compressed and fed to a pipe leading to the intake manifold. Also used for turbocharching. (Paxton, Vortex, etc....)

Roots type or positive displacement blower. These were designed to provide intake air fot the old GMC 71 series two cycle deisel engines. They were adopted by hot rodders and later by car companies and redisigned or modified to ram air into the engine. Air is discharged directly into the intake manifold where it gets compressed and heated up.(6-71, 8-71, Weiand, Eaton Etc..)Also used by car manufacturers as it is reliable, and simple.

Screw type, similiar to a roots blower, but compresses the air within its housing and compressed air is fed into the intake manifold. (Whipple )

In the centrifugal, pressure increases geometrically with the speed of the impeller. Not enough pressure at low speed, and too much pressure at high speed, similar to a turbocharger. Needs method to regulate pressure. Also heats the air and should use intercooling.

The roots blower provides a fairly consitent pressure through out the RPM range, but uses a lot of power at high rpm. Excellent for fuel dragsters making 6000 HP. Heats up air at high pressures, can't be intercooled unless mounted away from the engine. Works best when fuel is introduced on the input side and used to cool the air.
Gives good result, good bottom end and good top end, if pressure is held below 15 PSI. At higher pressures it eats up more and more power to the point of dimnishing returns

The screw type is the most efficient, does not use much power and does not heat the air as mouch as the others. It works so well that the NHRA has banned it from use on alchool dragsters claimong unfair competition.






 
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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ok kind of a follow up question stemming from the first one LOL.
Ive heard turbo chargers and better than supercharger because they feed off exhaust where as the supercharger feeds off belt system of engine. Is that true, If a turbo does feed off exhaust is that why turbo ricers have a high pitched wine instead of a rumble
 
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 02:49 AM
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Four reasons:
Ricers rev much higher than a Chevy V8 (Higher speed= higher pitch)

The turbo spins about 10 times faster than a belt driven supercharger. (Higher speed=higher pitch)

The sound of an engine is mainly determined by the number of cylinders and firing order and to a lesser extent by the exhaust system.
(4 cyl buzz, 6 cyl growl, 8 cyl rumble, 10 cyl sound like vacuum cleaners, 12 cyl sound like fabric tearing)

Turbochargers like to whine and hiss. Listen to a Freightliner truck with a turbocharged 12.7L Detroit Diesel engine next time you are alongside one. (1800 ft lb of torque @ 1100 RPM, 650 HP @ 1600 RPM, 15 speed transmission, 7 MPG @ 60 MPH pulling 80,000 lb)

Turbochargers are more efficient because they use the hot exhaust to spin the turbo, but much harder to set up, and very hard on lubricants especially when used on daily drivers. Much of the cost in a turbocharger is generated by the stuff needed to keep them alive.
 
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