89 camaro rs with 81 camaro 267 v8. a few questions

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Old May 19, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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Default 89 camaro rs with 81 camaro 267 v8. a few questions

took this car in on trade for one of my trucks to fix up a little. it runs and drives, has very little rust and one dent. They put in a 267 v8 out of an 81 camaro and boy does that engine look ugly, it has hoses and wires running everywhere and alot of them arent connected to anything. the question i have now is:

There is a hose, about 1 1/4 in in diameter that is connected to the top of the engine case, directly behind the fan, just above timing cover. This hose is black like a radiator hose, followed it and it was plugged off, well a bolt stock in it and clamped. wasnt doing anything so i pulled it. had antifreeze in the line and it is sittin level in the hole it was attached to. anyways, my question is should i splice this plugged line into an active line or should i just plug it at the case and leave it?

currently have to take everything out because the valve covers were only finger tight. you can bet the engine is covered in oil and grease. lucky me.



any help would be great, if someone who knows alot about these wouldnt mind emailing me, im sure i will have more questions for you at some point. would appreciate any help. my email is lilbam_skateszooyork@hotmail.com

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Old May 19, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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A picture would help, but it sounds like you're describing the heater hose that's connected to the water pump. That hose would normally run to the heater core at the firewall, and loop back out of the heater core and connect to the fitting on the intake manifold. With a summer only car, some guys prefer to just loop that hose or plug the fitting holes to bypass the heater core.
 
Old May 20, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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this particluar hose did connect to the top of the intake manifold just in front of the carb. when i followed the line it ran over to the left side of the radiator by the battery. "this is when looking at the engine not when sitting in the car" so i figured it was just another radiator hose and that they didnt have the 81 radiator. i tore the engine apart last night, took off all hoses, the fan, valve covers, carb... ect, its so dirty i have just decided to tare it apart and look over everything. which brings me to another issue.

i have always been a small engines guy, this is tecknically the first vehicle i have been inside of the engine of, i know what most everything is and where it goes. but almost all of my valve lifters are loose, not sure if they are supposed to wiggle or not, a few are tight as hell but the others have about 1/4" play. normal?
 
Old May 20, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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You talking about the lifters (below the intake manifold) or the rocker arms (on the heads)? Either way, no that kind of slop isn't "normal".
 
Old May 20, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Well I feel like a noob. I wasnt aware that GM even made a 267. Is it interchangeable with other SBC parts? Whats the history on this engine? I did a quick Google search but Im too lazy to really read all dem paragraphs and teknikoolgokal stuffs.....
 
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What a friggin lazy ***. Just read the small words then!
I'll give you the quick answers to your two questions...No, and 1979-82 Camaro, Monte Carlo, El Camino, Malibu Classic, Impala and Caprice.
 
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they must be the rocker arms because i havn't taken the intake manifold off yet. and did you say the 267 wont accept other short block chevy accessories??
 
Old May 21, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FmxLevi
they must be the rocker arms because i havn't taken the intake manifold off yet. and did you say the 267 wont accept other short block chevy accessories??
With the rockers being that loose, you would want to take a closer look. They could have loosened (not so common) or the cam could be shot.
Parts interchangeability isn't so cut & dried as I suggested. I was just cutting Scott off at the knees for being too lazy to read up on it!
With the innards (rotating assembly), the 267 is in it's own world. But things like intake manifold, bolt on accessories, etc. can swap around.
 
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Nobody actually reads anymore! Duh! Thats what Google Image search is for! 8*P
 
Old Jun 8, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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okay so i took the engine apart "valve covers, heads, intake, exhaust manifolds, water pump, carb, air cover, the thing the fan mounts too.. not sure what its called. i wanna say its the windage tray or something??? correct..?"

okay well i took everything off the block, left the cam and pistons in. painted the engine up after 2 weeks of cleaning and de greasing. got new head gaskets ready to be put in. i decided to use the old intake and carb for now, dont have all the funds cuz racing my wheeler is my main focus, this is a side project.

well i got all the torque settings but cannot find what to set the torque at on the rocker arms. i have had the rockers, and push rods soaking in synthetic oil the whole time and sprayed fogging oil on the cylinders.

so the questions remaining are:

do you know the proer torque to set the rocker arms at?

should i replace the intake gaskets as well?

when timing, i believe the #1 cylinder should be tdc, then i put the new distributer in. correct?

also does anyone happen to have a spark wire diagram i could get? so i know which pole goes to which cylinder.

another is where can i get an air filter cover, an edlebrock that will fit that carb? it doesnt have the basic round insert like i see on the 350's, its more like a 3/4 moon shape.

thanks alot for the help. i will post pics of the engine once its assembled. looks prettybad ***, all black red and some chrome. the car is black and the interior is black and red. so it should flow pretty nice.
 



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