1983 Z-28 Would appreciate any advice.
#21
08-01-2009, 07:57 AM
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Gotta unleash them powers.
#22
08-01-2009, 08:10 AM
I would say you aren't ready yet then. It sounds as if you want a turn-key already completed project car, for cheap. That will not happen. There were no powerful V-8's at all from the mid 70's up until really the LS1's. Okay, I know some have done a good job with L-98's and the LT-1's, but in stock trim, they were nothing to brag about. Secondly, I can never understand the obsession with manual, yep they're fun, but unless they are designed for what you want (clutch too) they cannot hold up to decent HP motors. Lastly, a 26 year old car will not ever have good paint or a good interior unless garaged. Emissions? They are everywhere and are getting tighter by the month. Even in strict emission states, it is still possible to make a great car with minimal effort. I hate them too, but get used to it. You can thank peoples past 30 years of voting for some of our "standards"
What you want to look for is a car with no rust, a clean title, an imagination or vision, and a lot of time, patience, energy, and $$$$$$$$$$
What you want to look for is a car with no rust, a clean title, an imagination or vision, and a lot of time, patience, energy, and $$$$$$$$$$
#23
08-01-2009, 09:06 AM
(But seriously, there were two kids yesterday at the parts store talking about their 40 horspower Neons they were going to build.....)
Im sorry I no longer have anything meaningful to add to this post....
#28
08-01-2009, 04:53 PM
What? I have a 93z28 6 speed and I am VERY impressed. I had a second gen built dynoed 435 horse and 489 torque and i feel my 93 would somke it. I dont have it anymore or i would find out. I dont know why people think 20 more horses make an ls1 that much better. Also, you must have an auto because I've ALWAYS got more performance out of a manual and they are a lot more fun. An LT1 camaro against a LS1 camaro can be a drivers race. SO, they made power before the LS series, maybe you just never had any of it.
Sorry, but if you claim your 93 would smoke a 435 HP car then your 435 HP car wasn't. The LS1 was better than the LT1 on just about every level. I'm not saying it was great but you'd have to admit its leaps and bounds above anything that came out from say 75-92. I've had a slew of different drivetrain vehicles. Yes, manual can be fun, but for the strip, auto is more consistent and will handle the abuse better. I have a Hughes 4L60(non-e) that will take 750HP all day for $1700 w converter. Find a manual that reliable (trans, clutch, Pressure plate, etc) for that price.
As for me not having any power, you're right. My IROC 305 made 175HP. Its an 87, find one stock that was a barn burner like you say they are....there aren't any. Thats why I gave proformance unlimited my business to make a motor with real and reliable HP.
#29
08-01-2009, 08:01 PM
Sorry, but if you claim your 93 would smoke a 435 HP car then your 435 HP car wasn't. The LS1 was better than the LT1 on just about every level. I'm not saying it was great but you'd have to admit its leaps and bounds above anything that came out from say 75-92. I've had a slew of different drivetrain vehicles. Yes, manual can be fun, but for the strip, auto is more consistent and will handle the abuse better. I have a Hughes 4L60(non-e) that will take 750HP all day for $1700 w converter. Find a manual that reliable (trans, clutch, Pressure plate, etc) for that price.
As for me not having any power, you're right. My IROC 305 made 175HP. Its an 87, find one stock that was a barn burner like you say they are....there aren't any. Thats why I gave proformance unlimited my business to make a motor with real and reliable HP.
As for me not having any power, you're right. My IROC 305 made 175HP. Its an 87, find one stock that was a barn burner like you say they are....there aren't any. Thats why I gave proformance unlimited my business to make a motor with real and reliable HP.
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#30
08-01-2009, 08:54 PM
I'm not talking about anything before 93 being barn burners. I've had serveral 305 and 350 irocs and I thought they ran good until i got a 93 with the LT1. Total different ball game. You said they didnt make power until the LS1 motors. That wasnt until '98 for the camaro. The LT1 came out in '93 for the camaro and THATS when they made power again.Also you said my "93 wouldnt beat my 435 horse second gen. Its not all about the power its about how everything works together. Have you not seen all the tech articles about the camaros of the late 60's and early 70's pushing all that horsepower and the only one to do as good a time in the quarter as th '93 LT1 was the '69 ZL1. With the 4th gens, everything works together. Everything is balanced. Thats why they ran the quarter faster. I'm not trying to argue, I just think that if you think the LT1 didnt have performance, then your not a camaro man. The LS1 only had 20 more horses. The LT1 is what brang the camaro back to life. Then along came '98 and the LS1 made it a "little" better.
But i do think the LS is a better platform for mods if nothing else. They seem to respond better to mods and still stay streetable. Look at the Zo6 or the Zr1. Two different motors, but both LS platforms, both over 500 horse and still SUPER reliable and streetable. If i had the money, i would deff go with the LS over the LT. But they each have their ups and downs just like anything.
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