1980 Z28 project thread
#132
04-29-2010 | 03:04 PM
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Well no bodyman again 
, waited over an hour and he called and canceled.
i did some stuff anyway, i'm getting the hang of that lincoln mig so i did the flange. heres the first pic of the old one.
heres the one im welding on
Gettin ready
and this is after a bit of grinding then more welding, then more grinding again lol.
, waited over an hour and he called and canceled.i did some stuff anyway, i'm getting the hang of that lincoln mig so i did the flange. heres the first pic of the old one.
heres the one im welding on
Gettin ready
and this is after a bit of grinding then more welding, then more grinding again lol.
#133
04-30-2010 | 02:39 PM
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Great progress on the project. Wish I could've been a contributing member earlier. 
I found a machine shop that sells scraps. Their scraps are more than workable for I need on my car. I have about 20 pieces of 2x2 box steel from 5 - 10 feet in length that I paid 5 - 10 buck for. I pay for 1/4 steel at about 1 - 5 bucks also depending on size. I'm sure you can get some of the small stuff for really cheap just to practice on.
JEEBUS! I pay less than 10 bucks for my argon shielded rolls.
Longacre makes some badass fender supports that will pretty much fit any car. They're adjustable and look like tie rods. You can get them for around 30 bucks too if you look around.
One reason I don't really go to Nastyz28 and talk about stuff with them. Everyone is an expert and their opinions are the only opinion. If you don't agree with them then you're stupid.
One of the forums I frequent that is local is like that. If you're not running 4k aluminum heads with 20k in your motor and making 800+ hp then your car is junk.
I like it here when I get to come by. Really down to earth and helpful people.
If I were you I'd drop by some body shops and ask if they have an old fender or something they would give you. They are usually great about such things and you can learn to weld on that first. Just cut a section off the old piece, then try tacking it back on. That's pretty much what I did.
I welded some beads on metal, and welded some heavier steel scrap together, but none of that will teach you to weld sheetmetal, and it's easy to screw it up if you don't practice. On the other hand it's not that hard to fix a blow out once you've got some skills developed.
I welded some beads on metal, and welded some heavier steel scrap together, but none of that will teach you to weld sheetmetal, and it's easy to screw it up if you don't practice. On the other hand it's not that hard to fix a blow out once you've got some skills developed.
No reason to turn them if they are smooth, but I would take some 320 or 400 grit emery paper and polish the surface to get rid of the rust, then spray them with brake cleaner and reinstall them. You'll want to repack the wheel bearings anyway, so good reason to do them when you grease the bearings, and install new seals too.
One of the problems our hobby has is people not being mindful of other's when replying to a question. Not just as it concerns other's budgets, but also their feelings. A lot of young folks get turned off to the car hobby because of things that were said to them which caused them to just give up and lose interest.
Building cars should not be all about money, and we need to keep in mind that everyone's interests are different, and everyone's financing is also different. I may be tickled to have built a car for $5,000, while the next guy may think my build is pretty sorry. We need to encourage, and help, without being critical.
The only time we should be really critical is if it helps save the person money, or affects safety, and then we still need to watch how we phrase it so we don't turn someone away from this great hobby we all love.
I have pretty strong feelings about this hobby becoming a rich man's thing, and not wanting that. I'll get off my soap box now.
One of the problems our hobby has is people not being mindful of other's when replying to a question. Not just as it concerns other's budgets, but also their feelings. A lot of young folks get turned off to the car hobby because of things that were said to them which caused them to just give up and lose interest.
Building cars should not be all about money, and we need to keep in mind that everyone's interests are different, and everyone's financing is also different. I may be tickled to have built a car for $5,000, while the next guy may think my build is pretty sorry. We need to encourage, and help, without being critical.
The only time we should be really critical is if it helps save the person money, or affects safety, and then we still need to watch how we phrase it so we don't turn someone away from this great hobby we all love.
I have pretty strong feelings about this hobby becoming a rich man's thing, and not wanting that. I'll get off my soap box now.
One of the forums I frequent that is local is like that. If you're not running 4k aluminum heads with 20k in your motor and making 800+ hp then your car is junk.
I like it here when I get to come by. Really down to earth and helpful people.
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04-30-2010 | 02:56 PM
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One reason I don't really go to Nastyz28 and talk about stuff with them. Everyone is an expert and their opinions are the only opinion. If you don't agree with them then you're stupid.
One of the forums I frequent that is local is like that. If you're not running 4k aluminum heads with 20k in your motor and making 800+ hp then your car is junk.
I like it here when I get to come by. Really down to earth and helpful people.
#135
04-30-2010 | 03:17 PM
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Agreed. I will go there to research something but rarely post unless it's in the regional section.
#137
04-30-2010 | 04:28 PM
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Seriously, the group over here is awesome and a great bunch of guys. Probably the best forum group I've come across so far.
#139
05-01-2010 | 08:40 AM
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Great progress on the project. Wish I could've been a contributing member earlier.
I found a machine shop that sells scraps. Their scraps are more than workable for I need on my car. I have about 20 pieces of 2x2 box steel from 5 - 10 feet in length that I paid 5 - 10 buck for. I pay for 1/4 steel at about 1 - 5 bucks also depending on size. I'm sure you can get some of the small stuff for really cheap just to practice on.
JEEBUS! I pay less than 10 bucks for my argon shielded rolls.
Longacre makes some badass fender supports that will pretty much fit any car. They're adjustable and look like tie rods. You can get them for around 30 bucks too if you look around.
One reason I don't really go to Nastyz28 and talk about stuff with them. Everyone is an expert and their opinions are the only opinion. If you don't agree with them then you're stupid.
One of the forums I frequent that is local is like that. If you're not running 4k aluminum heads with 20k in your motor and making 800+ hp then your car is junk.
I like it here when I get to come by. Really down to earth and helpful people.
I found a machine shop that sells scraps. Their scraps are more than workable for I need on my car. I have about 20 pieces of 2x2 box steel from 5 - 10 feet in length that I paid 5 - 10 buck for. I pay for 1/4 steel at about 1 - 5 bucks also depending on size. I'm sure you can get some of the small stuff for really cheap just to practice on.
JEEBUS! I pay less than 10 bucks for my argon shielded rolls.
Longacre makes some badass fender supports that will pretty much fit any car. They're adjustable and look like tie rods. You can get them for around 30 bucks too if you look around.
One reason I don't really go to Nastyz28 and talk about stuff with them. Everyone is an expert and their opinions are the only opinion. If you don't agree with them then you're stupid.
One of the forums I frequent that is local is like that. If you're not running 4k aluminum heads with 20k in your motor and making 800+ hp then your car is junk.
I like it here when I get to come by. Really down to earth and helpful people.
Those fender supports are pretty badass, i'll have to get some once the car is done, ya know little extras here and there.
LOL i know exactly what your talking about with the NastyZ28 site, 100%
You guys are right, this site is down to earth i love it, i can actually ask a question and you guys will answer but without making me feel like i'm dumb lol.
i'm gonna start with the floors pretty soon, i have to put in a couple pans but i also have some little patches to do. whats the best way to cut out the soft spots to do patches? what tool is the best for it? i have a nibbler will that work or i also have a cutting wheel (small handheld), will those work or make a mess?
thanks again for all the help guys
joe
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05-01-2010 | 08:57 AM
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And I thought this was the ONLY Camaro forum?
Lookin better every time Joe, keep plugging away.
Before you put your Bondo Bob hat on again, get one of these cheese graters, they come flat or curved. You shave the bondo before it sets up fully, while you can still dent it with your finger nail. It saves you a crap load of sanding. You can lock it into a handle, or use it separate which I like to do with the flat one so it can contour the panel.
Lookin better every time Joe, keep plugging away.
Before you put your Bondo Bob hat on again, get one of these cheese graters, they come flat or curved. You shave the bondo before it sets up fully, while you can still dent it with your finger nail. It saves you a crap load of sanding. You can lock it into a handle, or use it separate which I like to do with the flat one so it can contour the panel.