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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 1971BB427
Yes, that's why I added that as an afterthought. No, sway bars are behind the axle, while traction bars are in front. I've got both on my 71 Camaro.
could you post a pic of the rear of your car showing the sway bar and traction bar?
 
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1s13
sub frame connectors, maybe a 4 link? or a ladder bar setup.. sway bars, bilstien shocks, and polyurethane bushings..
would i need both ladder bars and traction bars? what does a 4-link actually do?
 
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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ok well so far im getting bolt on subframe connectors, lakewood traction bars and KYB gas shocks..so thats around $550

this is my daily driver but i might take it to the track sometimes and wouldnt mind some cornering improvements like sway bars but with the remaining $450, do you think its more important to get the sway bars, 4-link or the poly bushings?
 
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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What kind of shape are your bushings in? If they are original it would be safe to assume...bad!
So, you would feel a difference with any bushing replacement. Poly bushings are a lot more solid than original rubber style, which means they don't give under stress like rubber ones do. They will also give you a harsher ride when you hit the bumps. That's what's called "feeling the road". But hey, we're not driving Cadillacs anyway!
For starters, I would definitely replace the upper and lower rear leaf spring bushings with poly. The rubber bushings like to allow the shackles to lean around corners, which makes the rearend sway left to right. An addition of a frame-to-rearend lateral bar would be a nice addition if you are a habitual "spirited" turn taker!
 
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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What kind of shape are your bushings in? If they are original it would be safe to assume...bad!
So, you would feel a difference with any bushing replacement. Poly bushings are a lot more solid than original rubber style, which means they don't give under stress like rubber ones do. They will also give you a harsher ride when you hit the bumps. That's what's called "feeling the road". But hey, we're not driving Cadillacs anyway!
For starters, I would definitely replace the upper and lower rear leaf spring bushings with poly. The rubber bushings like to allow the shackles to lean around corners, which makes the rearend sway left to right. An addition of a frame-to-rearend lateral bar would be a nice addition if you are a habitual "spirited" turn taker!
i think there the original, i bought it a yr ago and dont think anybody upgraded them. lol so i would have a harsher ride when going over the bumps with the poly bushings?

would it be worth it to get this complete poly bushings kit? im not sure how much it would cost to install but the kit is $222

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PTP-7-2030/

or would money better be spent on sway bars or a 4-link or on just some of the poly bushings?
 
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When you hit a bump, shock waves travel up from the tires, through the balljoints, suspension parts, bushings, the subframe, body mount bushings, and finally to the body. The more solid those connections are (bushings) the more you will feel.
I'm not going to stick my neck out and tell you which way to go, rubber or poly. I already have a wife who doesn't let me forget the things I say!
Some like the stiffer ride, others don't feel poly is necessary and rubber is fine. It's up to you and what you are willing to tolerate.
Oh, and a 4-link is going to shoot your budget right there. Plus you also need to know how to weld well to install it on your rearend.
 
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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well its not like i'd be going over tons of bumps lol so maybe i will go with poly..what is the biggest benefit from the poly bushings if you feel the road more?

would it be worth it to just get the poly upper and lower rear spring bushings? what are some key bushings that i should get poly besides the rear spring bushings?

wow ok then 4-link will have to wait lol
 
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Unless you're really going for a radical street rod, or a lot of track time, I'd skip the 4 link. You can do a lot of other things for the same money.
I would go for at least the spring bushings, and upper/lower control arm bushings in Poly. If you leave your body mounts as rubber you'll feel less harsh, but it wont hurt the handling at all. If you already had front and rear sway bars, I'd go with poly on those also.
PS- I don't have a picture of the rear end, but I'll try to get one one of these days.
 
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 1971BB427
Unless you're really going for a radical street rod, or a lot of track time, I'd skip the 4 link. You can do a lot of other things for the same money.
I would go for at least the spring bushings, and upper/lower control arm bushings in Poly. If you leave your body mounts as rubber you'll feel less harsh, but it wont hurt the handling at all. If you already had front and rear sway bars, I'd go with poly on those also.
PS- I don't have a picture of the rear end, but I'll try to get one one of these days.
yeah im not gonna see tons of track time..i was thinking about skipping them too lol

ok no rush on the pic..so far im going with subframe connectors, traction bars, gas shocks and poly spring and lower/uppper control arm bushings..how much do you think it costs to install the poly spring and lower/upper control arm bushings?

Total(for frame connectors, traction bars, shocks(with installation) and the poly spring and lower/upper arm control arm bushings)=$680
 

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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I would go with new springs, poly bushings, and sway bar(if you don't have one already)or poly bushing for the sway if you do have one, and sub frame connectors. Or if you are good at saving money.....save another $900 and go with an airbag suspension for the rear.
 



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