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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 12:13 AM
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Ok I offered the one in my 78 in case all this 8 3/8 stuff is real. I too have never heard of a one or a press fit bearing for that matter. The reason for my offer Val was that there is no dispute that its a 8.5 and were close enough for him to drive down and pick it up.
 
Old Sep 23, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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I think I have this figured out as to why not.. The day after I got the Chevelle rearend home I checked the casting #s and was concerned on a previous post about it being datecoded to a 1970 Pontiac rearend. I found info on the yearone site about the differences between a 1970 gm 10bolt and the type "c" corporate 10bolt. If this is the case it would make sense. Again, going off the casting #s on the one I went and bought. If it was originally in a Pontiac that would make sense out of the pressed in bearings because Buick,Olds and Pontiac were pressed in. Also, the 1970 10 bolt had a shorter ring gear and pinion gear than the corporate rear end. The rear end was in a '72 Chevelle but I really don't think it was the original one. The talk of the rearend in my Camaro being an 8 3/8 was all speculation and I don't think that's true. Still think the one I bought is an 8.5", just a different type?
 
Old Sep 23, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by v8chvyguy
Here's what I can clarify, in '74-'75 GM introduced the 8.5 10 bolt. by '78 that was the only 10 bolt that was used in the Camaro. They never made a 8.375. What is going on here is the chevelle rear end is an 8.2 and not worth putting into the car. That needs to be reassembled and sold off. I failed you on that, I missed the fact that you mentioned it was from a '72. GM did not offer the 8.5 then and nothing interchanges between the two. You were given sound advise which would have worked if they were both 8.5's, my apologies. That said, I've done countless rebuilds and have three Camaro diffs sitting in my driveway all 8.5's, if the one in your car is not an 8.5 I'll eat my hat. Now, I may possibly have a set of 3.73's from my Z28, if they are still good. I have no plans for them. You can PM me if interested.
Not sure where you got your info, but it is incorrect. The 8.5" 10 bolt came out in 1971 with the 2nd gen Camaros, and also in Chevelles. The 8.5 became standard in all 2nd gen Camaros with a 10 bolt rearend from 1971-81. If the Chevelle is somehow a 8.2", then I can't explain it. I have always assumed the Chevelles changed to the 8.5" at the same time as Camaros, but that may be a wrong assumption. With the exception of 12 bolt 2nd gens there are no 2nd gen Camaros that ever came with anything but a 8.5" rear.
 

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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 78 on my plate
I think I have this figured out as to why not.. The day after I got the Chevelle rearend home I checked the casting #s and was concerned on a previous post about it being datecoded to a 1970 Pontiac rearend. I found info on the yearone site about the differences between a 1970 gm 10bolt and the type "c" corporate 10bolt. If this is the case it would make sense. Again, going off the casting #s on the one I went and bought. If it was originally in a Pontiac that would make sense out of the pressed in bearings because Buick,Olds and Pontiac were pressed in. Also, the 1970 10 bolt had a shorter ring gear and pinion gear than the corporate rear end. The rear end was in a '72 Chevelle but I really don't think it was the original one. The talk of the rearend in my Camaro being an 8 3/8 was all speculation and I don't think that's true. Still think the one I bought is an 8.5", just a different type?
The rearend being a 1970 would explain the difference, and it most likely is a 8.2" then. Still not sure about the press in axles, C clips, and I thought all GM's used C clips after 1965.
The solution might still be to have perches welded on and drop it in, but only if you want to leave it as is, and not change anything later. If it's something really odd, then installing it and forever having to deal with an oddball rearend might not be a good idea. On the other hand you may like it with those gears and never change anything again once it's installed.
Because I can do the fab work myself in a few hours I leaned towards just mounting the Chevelle rearend in new perches, and still would go that route, but I understand your hesitance if it's going to cost big dollars to have it done.
 

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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Take a look at this link to the Nova Froum. It shows the differences between the various 10 bolt GM rearends in post #2:
8.5" 10 bolt rear end identification vs 8.2" - Nova Tech
And here's a good article from Chevy Hi Performance about the GM 10 bolts:
Posi 10-Bolt Upgrade Install - Tech Article - Chevy High Performance Magazine
 
Old Sep 23, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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I still think the one I bought is a 8.5", but really think it's originally from a Pontiac. The casting # 9799100 was the same for all 1970 Pontiacs. That's the only thing I can figure on this one. That would also explain the comments about the ring and pinion gears being shorter also. The link I used to find this is Rear Axle Identification
that's where is says that the Olds/Buick/Pontiac rear ends were press fit bearings. The mechanic said that it was a beefier rear end than the one in the Camaro. Thanks for the links to the information I'll check them out. I would have the rearend housing changed today but was told that I would need a shorter driveshaft because the yolk is bigger on that one.
 
Old Sep 23, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 78 on my plate
I would have the rearend housing changed today but was told that I would need a shorter driveshaft because the yolk is bigger on that one.
Bigger, or longer??? Bigger is not an issue. Numerous places carry U joints that are two sizes, so they fit the driveline, but the other half fits the rearend yoke. When I swapped to the larger late style 10 bolt in mine it was frrom a '78 TA and I simply pressed in a $16 U joint that was small by large and bolted the driveline right in.
 
Old Sep 23, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Jeez, what we have here gentlemen is a clusterf*ck. As it were. I can't remember what you paid for the Chevelle rear but I would dump it and start over. Sell it. Pick up something that is known to work.
 
Old Sep 23, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Will these work anyone? I'm not a rearend guy. I go for the **** really. http://muskegon.craigslist.org/pts/2563285186.html
 
Old Sep 23, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Can I get an Amen! The yolk is longer BB427. I realize that it's not gonna work... Just trying to figure out the "why's." That craigslist link looks like what I will have to do, already sent him a message. That's all I would need then? What is a gov-loc posi?
 

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