1970 camaro in body shop need advice
#11
Well it's been two "L"s for 5 generations. Funny part is I can write it with two L's and people will still write me back with one, like I didn't know how to spell my name right.
#13
what ever you do,dont let the body shop use that 2 part crap on your car!! go to any parking lot and see how every car there is got that sunburn peely crap paint?? clear coat will not stay where you put it .instead opt for what is called single stage paint or also acrylic enamel it stays right where you spray it
#14
what ever you do,dont let the body shop use that 2 part crap on your car!! go to any parking lot and see how every car there is got that sunburn peely crap paint?? clear coat will not stay where you put it .instead opt for what is called single stage paint or also acrylic enamel it stays right where you spray it
A single stage paint job can also look great, but they're more apt to go bad sooner than a base-clear paint job. The shop that did my "2 part crap" paint job guarantees a single stage paint job for 8 yrs, but a base clear is guaranteed for 20 yrs.
#15
what ever you do,dont let the body shop use that 2 part crap on your car!! go to any parking lot and see how every car there is got that sunburn peely crap paint?? clear coat will not stay where you put it .instead opt for what is called single stage paint or also acrylic enamel it stays right where you spray it
#16
well,im a painter for 20 plus years.and yes single stage paint is "ancient technology" but so what so am i !! the thing is this modern 2 part paint is not durable,clear coat just dont hold up, its soft and fragile. the reason i reccomend acrylic enamel is its a proven system it stays nice when cared for as long as the shop does proper surface prep its the way to go IMHO
#17
well,im a painter for 20 plus years.and yes single stage paint is "ancient technology" but so what so am i !! the thing is this modern 2 part paint is not durable,clear coat just dont hold up, its soft and fragile. the reason i reccomend acrylic enamel is its a proven system it stays nice when cared for as long as the shop does proper surface prep its the way to go IMHO
#18
Some of those places will paint your car with two stage if you pay more. Years ago, I had a buddy (an excellent painter) paint one of my old Vettes in my garage, using single stage Centari. I then proceeded to spend a week doing the color sanding and buffing. The car turned out like glass, so I have nothing against the quality of single stage. One of the nice things with single stage though, is you can spot fix an "oops", which I had a couple while sanding, and it will be invisible. That's something you can't do with base/clear. Just try to spray a little spot fix, and the clear absolutely will leave a halo around the edge after it's sanded and buffed out. A whole panel needs to be repainted to just fix a little scratch. Both paints have their pluses and minuses.
#19
A good painter can fix a base-clear and blend it, without having a "halo" around the edge. It's a lot easier to paint a whole panel than do this, but I've seen the guy who did my car blend in panels and it looks perfect.
He does so by diluting the base coat once the spot has been painted, and continuing to dilute it as he blends the spot into the adjoining panels. Once it's all blended it requires a clear coat over the whole area, plus scuffing and clearing the adjoining areas too.
If my only reason to use a single stage was for ease of repair, it wouldn't be a good enough reason for me to use it. My previous paint job on the '71 was a Dupont Centari single stage, and although it stayed beautiful and shiny, it was garaged all the time, so not exposed to elements. As glossy and smooth as I thought it was, it didn't come close to the present base-clear that is on my car now. It was probably close to what I had before they cut and buffed my paint though.
I worked for Cadillac back when they were all laquer paint jobs, which were single stage, but laquer is a total different paint, and it too was easy to cut and buff, plus extremely easy to repair. If we still had the ability to purchase the old laquer paints, I'd go that as a single stage paint in a second!
He does so by diluting the base coat once the spot has been painted, and continuing to dilute it as he blends the spot into the adjoining panels. Once it's all blended it requires a clear coat over the whole area, plus scuffing and clearing the adjoining areas too.
If my only reason to use a single stage was for ease of repair, it wouldn't be a good enough reason for me to use it. My previous paint job on the '71 was a Dupont Centari single stage, and although it stayed beautiful and shiny, it was garaged all the time, so not exposed to elements. As glossy and smooth as I thought it was, it didn't come close to the present base-clear that is on my car now. It was probably close to what I had before they cut and buffed my paint though.
I worked for Cadillac back when they were all laquer paint jobs, which were single stage, but laquer is a total different paint, and it too was easy to cut and buff, plus extremely easy to repair. If we still had the ability to purchase the old laquer paints, I'd go that as a single stage paint in a second!
#20
well,im a painter for 20 plus years.and yes single stage paint is "ancient technology" but so what so am i !! the thing is this modern 2 part paint is not durable,clear coat just dont hold up, its soft and fragile. the reason i reccomend acrylic enamel is its a proven system it stays nice when cared for as long as the shop does proper surface prep its the way to go IMHO
Last edited by Bamaro; 07-21-2011 at 05:56 PM.