my 69 camaro project
I'm sure it is, but it just reminded me of my painter and I a few weeks ago. It was so funny when we spotted it lol! His face was so red, it was classic! Ha! 
Just a quick concern about the below picture if you don't mind. You've done a fantastic job with all of your wiring, I mean, it looks fantastic (I'm using a lot of your pictures to clean up my wiring), but it's a bit close to your headers IMO, as is your transmission cooling lines. I'd be afraid it would melt your lines, not to mention they are going to be heating your tranny fluid.
On possible solution may be as simple as wrapping your headers, or at the very least get a shield to defer some of the heat away from your starter or the heat will take your starter out at the most opportune time.
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Just a quick concern about the below picture if you don't mind. You've done a fantastic job with all of your wiring, I mean, it looks fantastic (I'm using a lot of your pictures to clean up my wiring), but it's a bit close to your headers IMO, as is your transmission cooling lines. I'd be afraid it would melt your lines, not to mention they are going to be heating your tranny fluid.
On possible solution may be as simple as wrapping your headers, or at the very least get a shield to defer some of the heat away from your starter or the heat will take your starter out at the most opportune time.
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Last edited by StoveBolts; Feb 7, 2011 at 07:53 AM.
^ I was noticing that too. In addition, the tranny coolant lines do not want to be run in rubber at all, for obvious reasons.
Steel all the way, front to back. If you have to use rubber hose, at the connection on the cooler is ok.
Steel all the way, front to back. If you have to use rubber hose, at the connection on the cooler is ok.
Don't worry guys we are not done yet. The hose for the transmission cooling lines are the proper type of hose and its ran similarly to other factory installations. Those lines are zip-tied to the fuel line and if we thought there would be a problem then that wouldn't be there either. But the fuel line is run at the factory location. The picture doesn't really show the true distance of the starter from the headers.
I understand Orocker.
I spent some good money on a set of MSD wires that where "Heat Resistant" to headers. Hey, that's what the box said anyway. Oddly enough a couple of them started to melt after just a short time.
When the factory lines were ran, they were ran with the intention of your stock exhaust manifold, which I believe (I could be wrong) also had a factory heat shield. Headers put out much, much more heat than the factory exhaust manifold and that type of heat isn't friendly to anthing around it including metal lines with fluid running through it, let alone rubber lines that can heat up and burst making a mess all over everything and ingniting on the hot headers. Honestly, with all the work you've done, why take that chance?
As far as the starter itself, without a starter heat shield, the heat from the headers will kill the starter in no time flat, and it will happen when you go somewhere, turn off the car and come back 15 minutes later to start the car, except the starter is too hot to crank. Back when, I had a friend with a 72 Chevelle and I think we replaced his starter twice one summer.
At the least, get some header wrap, and wrap them up. I don't know if it's true or not, but they claim you can scavange a few HP by using the wrap anyway, so it's win win.
I spent some good money on a set of MSD wires that where "Heat Resistant" to headers. Hey, that's what the box said anyway. Oddly enough a couple of them started to melt after just a short time.
When the factory lines were ran, they were ran with the intention of your stock exhaust manifold, which I believe (I could be wrong) also had a factory heat shield. Headers put out much, much more heat than the factory exhaust manifold and that type of heat isn't friendly to anthing around it including metal lines with fluid running through it, let alone rubber lines that can heat up and burst making a mess all over everything and ingniting on the hot headers. Honestly, with all the work you've done, why take that chance?
As far as the starter itself, without a starter heat shield, the heat from the headers will kill the starter in no time flat, and it will happen when you go somewhere, turn off the car and come back 15 minutes later to start the car, except the starter is too hot to crank. Back when, I had a friend with a 72 Chevelle and I think we replaced his starter twice one summer.
At the least, get some header wrap, and wrap them up. I don't know if it's true or not, but they claim you can scavange a few HP by using the wrap anyway, so it's win win.
Last edited by StoveBolts; Feb 7, 2011 at 08:56 AM.
Yea we will do something about the starter but after some research I see bad reviews on header wraps. The squid's brother works at Napa and also said yes to a heat shield for the starter or I would probly go through 2 a year with a DD.
i was talking about wraping the hoses, yah ive read that the header wrap sucks. i used a termotec velcro shield on my egr pipe and it works great. gona put some clamp on exhaust wrap on the crossover where its close to the fuel lines and see how it handles bein wet.
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?tp...action=product
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?tp...action=product
Last edited by craby; Feb 7, 2011 at 04:24 PM.


