First generation buying advise
#11
RE: First generation buying advise
In Southern california it seems like people are asking pretty high prices for some not so great cars.
It seems like it would cost more than $30,000 to build a car like this by the time you figure all of the parts, labor and nickles and dimes that is sunk into it....
There are shells of cars that are missing major parts with no motors or trans.selling for over $12,000 in this area. ( Coupes, not convertibles)
I can only compare it with what I see in the local Autotraders, etc.
It seems like it would cost more than $30,000 to build a car like this by the time you figure all of the parts, labor and nickles and dimes that is sunk into it....
There are shells of cars that are missing major parts with no motors or trans.selling for over $12,000 in this area. ( Coupes, not convertibles)
I can only compare it with what I see in the local Autotraders, etc.
#12
RE: First generation buying advise
Here is the sellers description..
1967 RS/SS396 camaro convertible (tribute car)
exterior: fresh marina blue paint with white bumble bee stripe, pin stripe and blacked out rear tail light panel (done correctly to factory specs). very straight, rust free and unhit california car with original sheet metal. newer (black) power convertible top. dealer installed luggage rack. rear bumper gaurds. new 14x7 rally wheels, caps, trim rings and BFG radial tires. all chrome is either new or in good original condition. new windshield. new wheather stripping. grill, trim, emblems, lights andlenses are new or in good original condition.
interior: new blue deluxe seat covers (front and rear), new deluxe door panels, new dash,new sun visors, newwindow pillar moldings, new sill plates. carpet, kick panels, console with factory tach/gauges, factory power/tilt steering column, etc. are not new but in great condition.
drivetrain: 396/325 engine (rebuilt and date matched). 350 turbo auto trans. 10 bolt 308 gear rear axle. very detailed engine compartment (cowl tag correct). new battery, correct style battery cables, hoses, tower clamps, belts, starter, radiator, electronic ignition, coil, wiring harnesses, factory valve covers, air cleaner, etc. new power disc brakes including master, booster, calipers, etc. new exhaust system front to back. car runs and drives very good.
options: SS396 performance package.
RS package. (new RS grill, headlight motors, actuators, limit switches, wiring harnesses, back up lights, etc).
power top.
power/tilt steering.
power disc brakes.
factory tach/gauges.
deluxe interior.
fold down rear seat.
rear bumper gaurds.
luggage rack.
factory soft ray tinted glass.
this is a nicely optioned, good driving, cosmetically attractive car in #2 condition appraised @ $44,500. it is definetely an above average driver quality vehicle but is not perfect and does have some flaws.
1967 RS/SS396 camaro convertible (tribute car)
exterior: fresh marina blue paint with white bumble bee stripe, pin stripe and blacked out rear tail light panel (done correctly to factory specs). very straight, rust free and unhit california car with original sheet metal. newer (black) power convertible top. dealer installed luggage rack. rear bumper gaurds. new 14x7 rally wheels, caps, trim rings and BFG radial tires. all chrome is either new or in good original condition. new windshield. new wheather stripping. grill, trim, emblems, lights andlenses are new or in good original condition.
interior: new blue deluxe seat covers (front and rear), new deluxe door panels, new dash,new sun visors, newwindow pillar moldings, new sill plates. carpet, kick panels, console with factory tach/gauges, factory power/tilt steering column, etc. are not new but in great condition.
drivetrain: 396/325 engine (rebuilt and date matched). 350 turbo auto trans. 10 bolt 308 gear rear axle. very detailed engine compartment (cowl tag correct). new battery, correct style battery cables, hoses, tower clamps, belts, starter, radiator, electronic ignition, coil, wiring harnesses, factory valve covers, air cleaner, etc. new power disc brakes including master, booster, calipers, etc. new exhaust system front to back. car runs and drives very good.
options: SS396 performance package.
RS package. (new RS grill, headlight motors, actuators, limit switches, wiring harnesses, back up lights, etc).
power top.
power/tilt steering.
power disc brakes.
factory tach/gauges.
deluxe interior.
fold down rear seat.
rear bumper gaurds.
luggage rack.
factory soft ray tinted glass.
this is a nicely optioned, good driving, cosmetically attractive car in #2 condition appraised @ $44,500. it is definetely an above average driver quality vehicle but is not perfect and does have some flaws.
#13
RE: First generation buying advise
Here in Central Cal., its not much different with prices. Desert climate areas do see a higher price for classic cars. Nicely detailed car that you might buy. But 44+k is for a REAL 396SS. It will sit for a while and then offer something less. Much Less.
#14
RE: First generation buying advise
I could get it for about $32,000.., not $44,500
It seem like with the exchange rate with the US dollar there are people from Europe coming here and snapping up classic cars... This seems to drive up the prices because they can afford to pay a little more due to the Euro being worth so much to the dollar. I know this is happening with Corvettes, so I am sure the same thing is happening with popular classiccars such as the Camaro.
It seem like with the exchange rate with the US dollar there are people from Europe coming here and snapping up classic cars... This seems to drive up the prices because they can afford to pay a little more due to the Euro being worth so much to the dollar. I know this is happening with Corvettes, so I am sure the same thing is happening with popular classiccars such as the Camaro.
#16
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RE: First generation buying advise
To go to all that expense and not change the Steering wheel center or the rear end. Both are dead give aways its not a SS. My favorite is the "(cowl tag correct)." on a clone? what does that mean?
Yes you could spend that much building a car, They didn't
Don't get me wrong I like an all original car as much as the next guy but an all original Clone?
Cars that are original have a limited life with any real usage. Car build in the 60's where designed to last about 10 years. E-coat body pannel installed with weld thru primers and coated with epoxy primerscan last a long time. If the right person restores a car it can last solid for the next 50 years with with the proper care.
It seems like it would cost more than $30,000 to build a car like this by the time you figure all of the parts, labor and nickles and dimes that is sunk into it....
rust free and unhit california car with original sheet metal.
Cars that are original have a limited life with any real usage. Car build in the 60's where designed to last about 10 years. E-coat body pannel installed with weld thru primers and coated with epoxy primerscan last a long time. If the right person restores a car it can last solid for the next 50 years with with the proper care.
#17
RE: First generation buying advise
I looked at the car tonight, but didnt drive it due to heavy rain.....
It looks as clean as it does in the pictures. there are some flaws such as a crack in the paint on the drivers door( body filler?), some chips on the edges of the doors (looks like the panels didnt align right at one time), power steering pump is noisy, defroster leverdont work, interior lights and clock dont work, and there is an oil leak somewhere. The paint looks pretty straight from what i could tell, and there didnt appear to be rust in the floorpan, trunk, or rocker panels.
Is this a car I should pass on??
What would be a good offer? ( the owner said he passed on $30,000 offers)
It looks as clean as it does in the pictures. there are some flaws such as a crack in the paint on the drivers door( body filler?), some chips on the edges of the doors (looks like the panels didnt align right at one time), power steering pump is noisy, defroster leverdont work, interior lights and clock dont work, and there is an oil leak somewhere. The paint looks pretty straight from what i could tell, and there didnt appear to be rust in the floorpan, trunk, or rocker panels.
Is this a car I should pass on??
What would be a good offer? ( the owner said he passed on $30,000 offers)
#19
RE: First generation buying advise
ORIGINAL: camarotodd
Should I pass on this and keep looking??
Should I pass on this and keep looking??
#20
RE: First generation buying advise
ORIGINAL: camarotodd
In Southern california it seems like people are asking pretty high prices for some not so great cars.
It seems like it would cost more than $30,000 to build a car like this by the time you figure all of the parts, labor and nickles and dimes that is sunk into it....
There are shells of cars that are missing major parts with no motors or trans.selling for over $12,000 in this area. ( Coupes, not convertibles)
I can only compare it with what I see in the local Autotraders, etc.
In Southern california it seems like people are asking pretty high prices for some not so great cars.
It seems like it would cost more than $30,000 to build a car like this by the time you figure all of the parts, labor and nickles and dimes that is sunk into it....
There are shells of cars that are missing major parts with no motors or trans.selling for over $12,000 in this area. ( Coupes, not convertibles)
I can only compare it with what I see in the local Autotraders, etc.