hey, im new so heres my q-i have a 94 z28 with a stock LT1 auto. with straight pipes, my friend has a 96 cobra 5-speed and says he would own me, is this true?

it would be close, it would probably depend on who's the better driver and if the stang has any mods, good luck though, put im in his place.

ehh, like he said, can depend on a couple of things. But you never know till you race the person. Some kid at my school has a cobra and my friend beat him with a 18psi Civic. But all i can do is leave you with these words. Mustangs are like tampons every pussy needs one

If you got an auto and he has a stick then he will win. Easy you dumb ass the civic has 18psi that thing will rule you out of the game also with out hesitation. What kind of car you got?

Put your Z/28 on a drag radial and you will win.

so you think that an LT1 auto...with DRs...will beat a 96 cobra, 5 speed....because of the DRs? a 96 cobra should get into the 13s....13.60 or so? do you think that the auto LT1 with DRs will run mid 13s?

well i guess if he guts the cat....lmao just kiddin

ORIGINAL: Patrick

so you think that an LT1 auto...with DRs...will beat a 96 cobra, 5 speed....because of the DRs? a 96 cobra should get into the 13s....13.60 or so? do you think that the auto LT1 with DRs will run mid 13s?

Yes I do, as my LT1 Z28 went 14.0 spinning through first, also a stock 96 cobra will have a hard time hitting 13.8 much less a 13.6.

the gutted cat is essential...

but seriously..i thought that that gen cobra was rated as closer to mid 13s...im not saying that the LT1 isnt capable of beating the cobra, i woudl just think that the cobra would have a defined advantage on the strip, provided a good driver.

The stock 96 Cobras are actually pretty slow, they run low 14's on average. Now through a blower on and that little 4v motor really comes alive, but thats another topic.

hmmm..i really thought that they were faster than that...was that one of fords "over rating years"?? i know they had a problem with that for a while...

It might have been, I know a bunch of people sent cobras back because they were underpowered.

if you race just get it on cam!

Either Ford over rates their engines or GM under rates their. Don't know which, but it has been going on since Ford stopped selling flat heads.

It would be close...

ford was flat out lying about the power the motors were rated almost 30-40 hp.why do you think the supercharged them. thats why i switched to the ls-1 cars. 4.6 ford motors are turds unless they are superchared.

YEAH I HAD AN 01 GT 4.6 5 SPD, IT WAS ALRIGHT, BUT NOT FAST ENOUGH. I MEAN LOOK I GOT RID OF IT FOR AN 86 IROC-Z THATS ABOUT TO HAVE A BIG BLOCK IN IT, SO CAN YOU TELL WHAT I LIKE MORE. LOL AARON

AND ALSO MY FRIEND HAD A STOCK 03 GT 5 SPD, AND ITS RATING IS 260 HP, BUT WHEN HE DINOED IT, IT ONLY PUT DOWN 227, TO ME THATS PRETTY CRAPY.

thats not to bad for that dyno pull, remember that power has to go thru the tranny and the rear before it hits the road..

yes i realize that, but my friend has a 02 ram air and his only lost 10 hp to the wheels on the dyno, thats what i was talking about, i just felt like the mustang should have not been that bad.

it takes more hp to turn a auto than a man trans

u should dust them the 96 gt was pretty much the slowest year ever made and there aren't that much of a difference between a gt and cobra and believe me i have a mustang. and as u can tell by my screen name what i really want lol

well except for the new cobra and gt there is about a 130 hp difference between the two now

yea but the o3-04 cobra are supercharged 96 cobra are completely out of that range even with the PI swap because of the eaton/ or sometimes kb superchargers

the one statement about the slowest stang, sorry it was the 1993 cars before the body change, ford put a smaller cam in the cars to make the epa standards for that year so they did not have to pay any fines to the epa on the new stadards for 1993. i bought one in november of 92 and it was a piece of ****. i traded a 1990 coupe body with the gt-40 iron heads and intake. ford had them rated at 205 hp let me tell ya i do not think it was close. i traded it 14 months later and only put 3500 miles on it. (shame on you ford)

The Cobra being the exception, the 96,97 and 98 4.6 cars were the worst of the GT's. Go on any Stang board and ask.

The cobra should take him if i understand the camaro is 285 stock and the cobra is 305 stock,Plus the cobra is a manuel and you are an automatic, Auto shifts quicker but manuel could redline and go through gears higher...


It would be a good race though....


And The cobra engine and the GT engine are different engines who ever asked that

ok well the cobra is rather quick with its 305 hp and 300 ft lbs of tq itdoes 0 to 60 in 5.9 second and a top speed of 152mph
o yeah i almost forgot its a ford

im not sure about the regular cobras but the 96 mystic cobra runs a 1/4 in 14 seconds according to this website http://fast-autos.net/ford/fordmysticcobra.html

thats the special edition one so im guessing the regular cobra would be worse or the same

correct me if im wrong

http://www.stangbangers.com/GT_vs_CamaroZ28_Article2.htm

the 94 camaro z28 ran 14.1 seconds in a 1/4 mile

it all depends really on the source but for the most part the cobras are runnin 14 seconds and the camaro z28 is runnin 14 seconds to 14.1 seconds

very close times, as far as im concerned its a tie

the 94 z28 vs the 94 gt on the other hand is no competition, the z28 blows it away hands down according to car and driver

ORIGINAL: wantals1camaro

yea but the o3-04 cobra are supercharged 96 cobra are completely out of that range even with the PI swap because of the eaton/ or sometimes kb superchargers


The PI swap is for the GTs, not the Cobras.

if i remember what i have been told dont all lt1s push 350 and it sould be to the camaros advantige the stang boy will burn his tires off while the camaro walks away but i anyway good luck i hope you win

never mind on the horse power range i looked in to it and it is the vett pacage that is stock with 350

i still think the camaro will win

Gosh, I love speculation. Here are the real numbers on the 1996 Cobra. 14 flat quarter. Just click on Cobra, then 1996. Cool site!
And what person said GT's and Cobra's are the same? Um, no. IRS for the Cobra, live axle for the GT, 4 valve versus 2 valve motor, in 04 the Cobra was rated at 390, which is underrated, 2005 GT=300, blah, blah ,blah. And yes, I had to MOD my car to hang with you LS1 guys, but I do :-) later days, and better lays!:D(psst, Im a former LT1 Camaro owner,, just got tired of waiting for a new body style!)

http://www.car-stats.com/stats/search/choosemodel.aspx

oh I forgot, it would be close, drivers race. I think the 96 Cobra had 320HP though, so he may edge you, depends on the launch. GO RACE!

But remember the cobra is a manual and th z28 is an auto...

wow i love all of you R-TARDS in here that when he asks based on ur experiance and or knowledge of the 2 cars/or if u look up numbers and whatnot as Bob did, that you reply

O i like the camaro more.. So it will win... <---- dumb statement

O its a ford, and the camaro is a chevy.. so ull win.... < ----- once again RETARTED STATEMENT....

He did not ask for your opinion on the two companies, we all know one flames the other for gods sake.... Kid asked for advise here... Not you being typical manufacturer biased car owners.... K THANKS .... DUUURRRR .. AAAA DUUUUURRRRR

morons....


anyways.. ide go on what bob said since he looked up all the info and people who actually answered the question without being a moron.... Its a drivers race, so just go out and race and come back and post the results....

sorry for the rant but it just really bothers me when people do that....

This is why i like it when JD gives info, does it based on knowledge and experiance... not biased opinions... so sorry... Go ahead and flame me if ude like, i expect you too.... hahah o well


EDIT: This rant shouldnt of really been used here... so i will remeber it and use it another time when it is more proper..... still keeping it so people see what i mean lol..

NOW GO RACE!!!!

ooo too funny

Well....it was an alright rant for this subject....

oo.. ah ty..... not really directed at anyone cept the people i described... its just something that bothers me... ah well....

wish he would race already and post or better yet... TAPE IT and show us the results

Yea, nothing like a paper racer

shifty, are you a MF member?

YESSIR... and you too? ive been there since feb... just recently knew about this place and actually am gettin a camaro so... makes sence to be here with ppl i know arent gunna give me **** like other forums might...

Wow, the chevrolet dealership next door just got 2 brand new c6 convertibles..........Ahhhhhhhh the sexiness

the only reason that i ask, as many people here know, we have had some issues with MF members coming to hassle the camaro owners...but so long as people are here to bs and not to hassle people, all is well!\

as for the C6, my dad had several vettes when i was young, and he sold them. he has since worked his way through cars as i have gotten older, and he is currently driving a bmw that was a joint effort between him and i. he is now thinking about selling the bimmer, and looking into a C6, but i doubt that he will.

Sell sell sell

I've never seen a stock 1996 Cobra run faster than 14.30s. However, I have heard some stories (lies, I'm sure) about putting 4.11s in them, along with an exhaust and intake, and running 13.20s. I don't see it happening, but who knows......

96 cobras are into the high 13's I though. Maybe i've just been hearing nonsense stories too, considering I haven't seen any slips, but from what I hear they are in the 13's...

hey easy on the stangs my bro has one its an 86 GT with a 5.0 and BBK headers and a bassani X-pipe and the thing is FAST!

he would smoke you

GM's LS1s were under-rated from the factory. The 305 or 310 Hp engines put down about 290 at the rear wheels, only about 7% looses through the trans and drivetrain and tires - you normally expect around 11% - 15%. For comparison a stock 345 HP 89 vette would put down about 310 HP - 20 more for over 40 more rating.

But the Ford must have been a bit sick: 227 RWHP in a 260 rated engine is about right. I would expect the '96 cobra to put down about 265-270.

depends on if the cobra has mods or not...5 speed will help me out because he will have more control on the rpms