Unless they are a vr4 twin turbo there is know way they could come close to a 4th gen z28. I test drove 2 of them with the 3.0 natural aspirated and at the time i thought they would be fast and I had a 2001 eclispse gt and it would run circles around both of the 3000gts so they are pretty weak. They are more like a 6 banger camaro but slower.

 

"They are more like a 6 banger camaro but slower."

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Agreed. But as this thread had those moments of hair pulling. Ive seen it before though....

 

in the UK the gt3000 ARE all twin turbos! LS1 is a good match for them thought, it comes down to driver mod. However if they run a little more boost, bigger intercooler, etc then they fly

 

No cause if that was the case then you would have ran them over and then proceeded to pass at least 6 vipers and ran a lambo right off the road just before you started going so fast that your car actually grew wings and then passed up an f-14 fighter jet and breaking the world air speed record..i know for sure that mine has done it before..hasnt everyones?

 

Not even close. A bone stock LS1 F-body should be able to run low 13s all day long depending on track conditions and area. And yes that goes for both the 4L60 and T56 cars. The pre 94 VR4s run low 14s stock with a good driver that can keep it in its power band. Thats a full second slower then a stock F-body. Now the later 95-97 cars where a closser and from a dig might be able to hold there own stock for stock but the F-body should still have a good edge by .3-.5 seconds. Thats a good bit when we are talking about the 1/4 mile. Plus if its a 4L60 with even a decent driver is very consistant and should be able to run near that same low 13 second pass all day long. I know back in the day when all i had was a lid and cat back i made 7 passes in one night and the car ran 13.20 to 13.37. I dont see a stock VR4 being able to do that. A week launch, missing a gear, short shifting, heat soak, or a over heated clutch could slow any turbo AWD car down a good bit.

Long story short yes stock for stock with a newer VR4 in great condition might be a drivers race. But if i was putting money on it i would go with the F-body that i know can go out there and run low 13 second passes all night long vs the VR4 that might be able to make a mid 13 second passes. Just my 2 cents.

 

A very heavy car with a not so great engine. The VR4 is a work of art the NA car was no where close. You can claim all you want but a early 90s 3000GT none trubo runs low 16s in the 1/4 mile. And no that is not a miss print. That means a low end 305TBI 3rd gen should be a drivers race and thats not saying much. Now you put a 350TPI 3rd gen or a 3.8 V6 4th gen in there and you are looking at well over a full second diffrence.

And if you want to bring in the big guns you could try and run a LT1 (low 14s) or a LS1 (low 13s) and see how you fair. FWD has its place and i love a well built FWD car (cobalt SS, 4G63 Eclipse, MSP, SRT4, RSX-S, H22 Prelude, Etc and so one) But the NA 3000GT was not one of them. It was a large heavy car that was under powered and lacked a good suspension system to get the car around the turns. Brakes in the car where not all that good and driving it around town fills like driving a small boat.

I would much rather drive a 420A (NA 2.0L 135HP neon engine) powered eclipse then a NA 3.0 3000 GT.

 

hahaha man... 3000gtsrock dude....dont even know what to say to your dumb *** besides theres no way in hell you would beat an lt1 whether from a standstill or roll. what I think happened, 3000gt dude pulled up to a guy in a 4th gen Z or SS, wanted to race. what he didnt realize is the camaro had just run out of gas and the passenger was on the other side pushing. this is the only logical explanation for any non turbo'd 3000gt beating an LT1.
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well i know this is an old thread but while driving down the road a 3000gt (non vr4) kept on my butt and wouldn't go away. Two college kids pulled up next to me (doing 55) and wanted to race. it was starting to create a possible bad day, I asked my 9 yr old to roll down his window and wave good bye.... i drive a 05 AWD...yes AWD... Magnum R/T with slight mods and a 91+ octane program... never saw them again.... but in the rear view getting smaller. The maggie with my fat butt in it weighs almost 5k.... and I don't have a mullet but a military cut suits me.

 

nah the tires on my z are starting to wear and all it does is give me problems hooking until im rolling at about 25 or so lol. When they were new and it was a warm day i could stomp it from a dead stop and hook up fine.

 

Late to the party, put wanna put my opinion in too.

You're comparing a 3rd gen to a 3000Gt? Sure, the 3000Gt will win. You compare it to the 4th gen LT1s and LS1s, and you're gonna get smoked.

You eat Camaro/Mustangs with your base 3000GT? Sorry, but I don't think so. My buddy had a '95 3000GT, 5spd, ended up selling it for a truck cause he's an idiot. Anyways, my '96 Buick Century kept up with him until he hit 3rd gear at which he started to pull away and win. If a 3100 v6 grandpa car could keep up with a base 3000Gt, how is it you believe that 300+ hp V8 is gonna lose?