Its still the fastest eclipse and the slowest camaro and you still have to compare the two.


thats funny

 

Its not only how it makes the power but also how fast it gets it power. assuming we are talking about a drag race im still going with the 3800. The GSX gets 210HP@6000rpms where the 3800 gets 200HP@5200rpm which means it might not have as much max power, but it will get its power alot sooner. Also looking into trq the eclipse has 16 less trq than the camaro. Both cars weight almost exsactly the same, and both cars are pretty aerodynamic. However the GSX is running stock on 215/50 tires (that is the upgraded one) where as the upgraded one on the camaro is 235/55. With some running on 245/50s like mine. Which may not sound like alot on paper, but in reality is a lot more grip for the camaro.

I still say the V6 Camaro wins. If you doubt me, send one my way and ill do it myself =)

 

i will say that the one eclipse that ever killed me was a gsx however he had swaped out the stock turbo for a biiiig one killed me bad

 

I've been noticing, can some of you guys resize your sigs? Those pictures are huge and it makes the threads go to different pages with only 4 or 5 posts.

Thanks...

 

The GS came with the big wing too, a boy I know had one bone stock, wrecked it

 

a boy... sounds so... so... LITTLE!!!

 

let me help u guys out, if it is a (eclipse)-gst= fwd turbo if it is a gsx=awd turbo and then there is (eagle) tsi is awd turbo they have 2.0L dohc 4g63 engines make crazy power with little mods.just go to any dsm website u will see cars in the 9's on stock engines just turbos and bolt ons. my car runs 11's on pump gas and street tires. mid sized turbo with bolt ons. not talking smackabout gm cars i have a gm itis my dd. i love the ls engines. just some insight on imports [&:]

 

I dont know what DSM web site you are on but this is total BS.
First off there are FF turbo talons as well. There is no stock 4g63 bottom end running 9 seconds or even 10 for that matter. The stock turbo on the second gens is horrible and the first gen isn’t much better. To run low to mid 13s in the first gen (the better gen to most) its going to take a FMIC, 16G or bigger, Fuel management, injectors, 260 cams minimal, a lot of boost probably around 17 pounds on the 16G (a lot on a 16G to the stock turbo), A new clutch and fly to get it to the ground and new axles to hold it. Now your making a little more than a stock evo or STI makes and running low 13s maybe if you push for a bigger cam and up the boost and higher octane fuel to sustain the higher boost maybe a 12 that would be impressive. With that being said now your valve train is at its limit and your bottom end is already being pushed way past its limit. You cant go much father with out rebuilding the head and bottom end. As far as running 11s on pump gas it is possible. With a built engine, totally new fuel system a large 18G or bigger, 272 cams, new diffs, rebuilt trany, and better rubber. ( yes a AWD car will break traction). Now you have a race car and your pushing low 12s. To break to the 11s its going to take a huge turbo and lots of boost well past what you would run on a daily driver. And the car is hardly going to idea do to the huge cam and at this point your also running a true stand alone system to support it all. And you have spend probably twice what the car cost if not more. The DSM is a good car and VS the V6 3.8 the eclipse second Gen is going to be a good race. From a dig the AWD is going to kick your *** if the guy can drive. From a roll on the 3.8 will pull for about 1 before the DSM hits boost and starts to real him in and over takes him. This is if its second gen. The first is lighter and the turbo is a little better than the second. If hes got any good mods he will walk the 3.8 in its stock form. I used to be a huge DSM fan and owned a 95TSI mild bolt ons and a 91 a also with mild bolt ons.

 

damn, poof, you just got owned by cbr.... nice info

 

Thanx for clearing that up for him. To think he only has one post & its wrong information. That means currently 100% of what he is posting is BS...

And dont forget, all that money you put into you eclipse you can put into the 3800 too and it has alot of potential also. Or depending apon the amount of money, you could get a Z28 and just blow them away.