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It depends what hard means to you. If your question is, is there anything about the LT1 Camaro that is especially hard -- not really, although the engine is way under the cowl and in my experience it is necessary to come up underneath with the headers, at least if they are long-tube. Means you need it up on a lift if possible to do it nicely (although we did get it done on jackstands). the fit was pretty tight going in, too. I remember we thought we might have to losen the engine and jack it over at one point, but we got around that with a lot of contortions.
If the question is, how hard is it to install headers, period. Then if you've changed the oil in your car and a few hoses, etc., but not much else --it is damn difficult. If you've done work like changing out a radiator, starter, etc., then it is a hassle but you can get through it although you will expand your vocabulary a bit in frstration a time or two. If you've changed out heads and stuff like that on you car, then its easy, just a pain 'cause you really have to instlall from underneath.
If the question is, how hard is it to install headers, period. Then if you've changed the oil in your car and a few hoses, etc., but not much else --it is damn difficult. If you've done work like changing out a radiator, starter, etc., then it is a hassle but you can get through it although you will expand your vocabulary a bit in frstration a time or two. If you've changed out heads and stuff like that on you car, then its easy, just a pain 'cause you really have to instlall from underneath.
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while were on the subject, what tools should i have ready for installing/removing the headers, and should i invest in that special gm ratchet/wrench for the spark plugs. and are long tube headers going to give any improvement over short/mid length headers? thanks.
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while were on the subject, what tools should i have ready for installing/removing the headers, and should i invest in that special gm ratchet/wrench for the spark plugs. and are long tube headers going to give any improvement over short/mid length headers? thanks.
while were on the subject, what tools should i have ready for installing/removing the headers, and should i invest in that special gm ratchet/wrench for the spark plugs. and are long tube headers going to give any improvement over short/mid length headers? thanks.
The most important tools of the job are a case of beer and someone on standby to spot the tools on the lawn that you just threw.
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are long tube headers going to give any improvement over short/mid length headers? thanks.
are long tube headers going to give any improvement over short/mid length headers? thanks.
Second, consider having a good shop put them on. You can save money by doing it yourself, but you will earn your money.
If you hire a shop to do the work, don't take a case of beer to them. Keep it: you';ll enjoy it more and the work they do will probably be more along the lines you wanted. But take them a six-pack when you pick it up.
Long tube headers are definately better for the street. Good ones really make a difference in low and mid range power. The difference they make can truly be amazing.
the most important point about headers though, iis the fit. Cheap ones don't. A small rattle or buzz where cheap headers bang of vibrate against something can turn a very pleasant car into a torture chamber (and it really impresses women: "Is you car borken of something? It sure sounds cheap!").
-----Picture: the best set of headers I ever saw. Long-tube, 1 3/4" stainless steel headers for a Corvette C5, from Lingenfelter, cost $1100 but were flawless and fit perfectly. They added 30 lbs of torque in the mid range and about 20 Hp at the top to the stock engine. I was sorry to see them go: I needed 1 7/8s with the 427
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First off, everything RatedZ said is absolutely spot on. Get good beer, you will deserve it by the time the project is over.
Second, consider having a good shop put them on. You can save money by doing it yourself, but you will earn your money.
If you hire a shop to do the work, don't take a case of beer to them. Keep it: you';ll enjoy it more and the work they do will probably be more along the lines you wanted. But take them a six-pack when you pick it up.
Long tube headers are definately better for the street. Good ones really make a difference in low and mid range power. The difference they make can truly be amazing.
the most important point about headers though, iis the fit. Cheap ones don't. A small rattle or buzz where cheap headers bang of vibrate against something can turn a very pleasant car into a torture chamber (and it really impresses women: "Is you car borken of something? It sure sounds cheap!").
-----Picture: the best set of headers I ever saw. Long-tube, 1 3/4" stainless steel headers for a Corvette C5, from Lingenfelter, cost $1100 but were flawless and fit perfectly. They added 30 lbs of torque in the mid range and about 20 Hp at the top to the stock engine. I was sorry to see them go: I needed 1 7/8s with the 427
[IMG]local://upfiles/1744/BE93B0EFD4E443A1AF679D5E8B61D3BA.jpg[/IMG]
ORIGINAL: 94Z28SHAKER
are long tube headers going to give any improvement over short/mid length headers? thanks.
are long tube headers going to give any improvement over short/mid length headers? thanks.
Second, consider having a good shop put them on. You can save money by doing it yourself, but you will earn your money.
If you hire a shop to do the work, don't take a case of beer to them. Keep it: you';ll enjoy it more and the work they do will probably be more along the lines you wanted. But take them a six-pack when you pick it up.
Long tube headers are definately better for the street. Good ones really make a difference in low and mid range power. The difference they make can truly be amazing.
the most important point about headers though, iis the fit. Cheap ones don't. A small rattle or buzz where cheap headers bang of vibrate against something can turn a very pleasant car into a torture chamber (and it really impresses women: "Is you car borken of something? It sure sounds cheap!").
-----Picture: the best set of headers I ever saw. Long-tube, 1 3/4" stainless steel headers for a Corvette C5, from Lingenfelter, cost $1100 but were flawless and fit perfectly. They added 30 lbs of torque in the mid range and about 20 Hp at the top to the stock engine. I was sorry to see them go: I needed 1 7/8s with the 427
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As to answer his question whether LTs are better than block huggers or mid-lengths.....most definitely!
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