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Old 11-21-2009, 11:16 AM
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The last few day I would start my car and it would run really weird. It would kinda sound like it wanted to die (at idle and driving) and sometimes it even did. But I just make it go and eventually it smooths itself out and all is good. but later it MIGHT do the same thing when I go to start it agian (sometimes it does it.. sometimes not I would say 6 out a 10 times)
 
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:24 AM
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plugs wires bad gas???? my car had bad gas and when i would start it would spit sputter misfire etc used some fuel stabilizer changed plugs problem went away
 
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:28 AM
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See:
Document ID# 764610
2002 Chevrolet Camaro


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Crankcase Ventilation System Inspection/Diagnosis
Concern
Action

External oil leak
Inspect for any of the following conditions:

Plugged positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) valve.
Damaged or incorrectly installed PCV valve.
Excessive crankcase pressure.

Rough Idle, Stalling, or Low idle speed
Inspect for any of the following conditions:

Plugged PCV valve.
Leaking (damaged) PCV valve.

High idle speed
Inspect for a leaking (damaged) PCV valve.

Sludge in the engine
Inspect for a plugged PCV valve
 
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:41 AM
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It could be a lot of things. To add the list already stated I would say Sticking or dirty EGR valve making it not seal at idle.
 
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:10 PM
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Is your '95 a 3.4 or 3.8?

Check this:

Document ID# 33387
1995 Chevrolet/Geo Camaro


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Rough, Unstable, or Incorrect Idle and Stalling
Step
Action
Value(s)
Yes
No

DEFINITION: Engine runs unevenly at idle If severe, the engine or vehicle may shake. Engine idle speed may vary in rpm. Either condition may be severe enough to stall the engine.

1
Was the Powertrain On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?
--
Go to Step 2
Go to the Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check

2
Perform a bulletin search.
If a bulletin that addresses the symptom is found, correct the condition as instructed in the bulletin.
Was a bulletin found that addresses the symptom?
--
Go to Step 13
Go to Step 3

3
Was visual/physical check performed?
--
Go to Step 4
Go to Visual/Physical Checks

4
Check the PCM grounds for being clean, tight and proper routing. Refer to Ground Distribution in Electrical Diagnosis.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 5

5
Observe Long Term Fuel Trim Bn1 and Bn2 on the scan tool.

Is Long Term Fuel Trim Bn1 or Bn2 significantly in the negative range (Rich condition)?
--
Go to Step 6
Go to Step 7

6
Check items that can cause the engine to run rich. Refer to DTC P0172 Fuel Trim System Rich Bank 1 .
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 9

7
Is Long Term Fuel Trim Bn1 or Bn2 significantly in the positive range (Lean condition)?
--
Go to Step 8
Go to Step 9

8
Check items that can cause the engine to run lean. Refer to DTC P0171 Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 1 .
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 9

9
Check for incorrect idle speed. Ensure that the following conditions are present:
Engine fully warm.
Accessories OFF.
Using a scan tool, monitor IAC position.
Is IAC position within the specified values?
5-50
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 10

10
Visually/physically inspect for the following conditions:
Throttle body tampering (throttle shaft stop screw turned).
Restricted air intake system. Check for a collapsed air intake duct, restricted air filter element, or foreign objects blocking the air intake system.
Throttle body. Check for the following conditions:
Excessive deposits in the throttle bore and on the throttle plate.
Objects blocking the IAC passage or throttle bore.
Excessive deposits in the IAC passage or on the IAC pintle.
Large vacuum leak. Check for a condition that can cause a large vacuum leak, such as a incorrectly installed or faulty PCV valve or brake booster hose disconnected.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 8

11
Check the injector connections. Refer to Fuel Injectors .
If any of the injector connectors are connected to an incorrect cylinder, correct as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 12

12
Check for proper operation of the fuel injectors. Refer to Fuel Injector Coil Test .
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 13

13
Check for fuel in pressure regulator vacuum hose.
If fuel is present, replace the fuel pressure regulator assembly. Refer to Fuel Pressure Regulator Replacement .
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 14

14
Check for proper ignition coil output voltage with a J 26792 spark tester:
Clip the spark tester to engine ground.
Connect one end of a spark plug wire to the spark tester; connect the other end of the spark plug wire to the coil being tested.
Connect one end of another spark plug wire to the other coil tower; connect the other end of the spark plug wire to ground.
Crank the engine while observing the spark tester; a crisp blue spark should be observed.
Repeat the above steps for each coil.
If adequate spark is not present at all coils, replace affected coil(s) as necessary. Refer to Ignition Control Module Replacement .
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 15

15
Remove spark plugs.
Check for wet plugs, cracks, wear, improper gap, burned electrodes, or heavy deposits.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary. Refer to On-Vehicle Service in Ignition System.

Notice
Determine the cause of the oil or gas fouled spark plugs in order to avoid damage to the new spark plugs.


Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 16

16
Check for loose ignition control module ground. Refer to Ground Distribution in Electrical Diagnosis.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 17

17
Check the ignition coils for cracks or carbon tracking.
If a problem is found, replace affected coil(s) as necessary. Go to Ignition Control Module Replacement .
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 18

18
Using a scan tool, monitor TP angle with the engine idling.

Is TP angle at the specified value and steady?
0%
Go to Step 19
Go to DTC P0123 Throttle Position (TP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage

19
Check PCV valve for proper operation. Refer to Crankcase Ventilation System
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 20

20
Check Transmission Range switch circuit. Refer to 4L60-E Transmission Diagnosis. .
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 21

21
Refer to Engine General Information and Mechanical Diagnosis to check for the following conditions:
Low compression.
Sticking or leaking valves.
Worn camshaft lobe(s).
Incorrect valve timing.
Bent push rods.
Worn rocker arms.
Broken valve springs.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 22

22
Check for faulty motor mounts.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Go to Step 23

23
Review all diagnostic procedures within this table.
If all procedures have been completed and no malfunctions have been found, review/inspect the following:
Visual/physical inspection. Refer to Visual/Physical Checks .
Scan Tool data. Refer to Engine Scan Tool Data List .
Freeze Frame data/Failure Records data.
All electrical connections within a suspected circuit and/or system.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
Go to Step 24
Review technical bulletins

24
Operate the vehicle to duplicate conditions present when the original symptom was noted.

Is symptom still present?
--
Go to Step 3
System OK
 

Last edited by libertyforall1776; 11-23-2009 at 01:12 PM. Reason: Added Rough, Unstable, or Incorrect Idle and Stalling troubleshooting
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:46 PM
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3.4 under the hood
 
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