Sorry guys if this isn't in the right section. I wasn't real sure where to put it. So as you can guess I'm tired of hearing the word slowmaro. so I have a few questions and hope you guys have some Idea's. I already have a CAI and working on putting together my header's/ exhaust system on my 1996 Camaro RS V6. So my first question.

How solid is the motor and drivetrain's in these camaro's. I'm looking to be around 450 hp when all said and done, Am I going to need to get forged pistons and a new tranny?(I'd like to have a bit of a sleeper, keeping my daily driver feel but able to take to the track on the weekends)

2nd I have heard of superchips that are just spliced into your MASS sensor that can add like 30hp ( just a number) and 40ft/lb of torque just by splicing them in, but I can't seem to find anything online. Anyone ever heard of these, or maybe a plug in to modify the computer a bit?

3rd Eventually I'm looking to get a turbo. I figure I'd probably have to beef up the engine for that but what else? and does anyone have a good idea of a size of turbo that would fit well or maybe of another car I could find a used turbo off of that would work well. ( i'm not afraid of rebuilding turbo's) As I think you can see my knowledge of turbo's is limited.

4th What's your guys idea's I know many of you guys have done rebuilds's and probably put a lot more horse power into a car than I ever have. throw out some Ideas .

Any and all help would be appreciated thanks guys

 

No chips they are bs. 450hp v6? Not gonna happen with out a turbo. The amount of money uou would have to invest into a v6 you could take half of the money buy a v8 ls1 camaro(z28) and have atleast 315 stock hp. Then build on that

 

You guys will probably call me crazy but I would rather keep it a V6. I know it will probably cost me more, but Around where I am everyone and their brother has a V8. I want something a little different and since this is my first car to build I want to try something that i haven't seen

 

I agree


450 HP out of a 3800 and a daily driver? Even with a turbo is not very realistic. We have one member that has about 350 Hp. At 400 Hp in your V6 going to have to upgrade just about everything between the radiator to the rear axles.Heck your T5 tranny going to fail south of 300 Hp. Your rear will fail at about 300 also. Anything over 280hp is going to require a lot of supporting upgrades.

 

Well that's definately not what i wanted to hear, but I'm glad i had a dose of reality before I tried to start. btw unfortunately I don't have a T5 tranny i have the 4l60e. with that said how will that tranny stack up to a ls1 motor?

 

He doesnt keep it updated like he use to, This will give you an idea what your in for.
Mass pushed hard and spent a lot of money to get under 12. A LS1 with a couple of bolt ons will out run him. But to each is own, He thought he was building a sleeper also when he started but I think there is a video towards the end. He is not fooling anyone. You can hear that monster coming a mile away.

https://camaroforums.com/forum/93-02...sleeper-40642/

 

If you wanna boost your best bet is a TD05-16G turbo (Mitsubishi turbo) that's what me and my buddy are running on our miata. So far we have 3800$ into the car including buying it for 500$. We've upgraded the pistons, rods, valve train, transmission, rear end, head, computer the entire fuel system, and exhaust. Factory they put out about 100rwhp (1.6L) according to the butt dyno were at 235rwhp at 18lbs of boost. Its fast but quite light.

Its not an easy job (or cheep) but damn its fun

Ohh and we've been working on it for about 2 years and its still not quite right. We can't get the a/f ratio right, crusing its good but under high boost its soooo rich it looks like a diesel. (It takes about an hour just to program the fuel curve)

 

Gorn you and slick said that it'd be a better idea to go with a ls1 that put's out about 315 hp stock... you also said that my rearend wouldn't last much past 300hp... So I'd still have to rebuilt the rearend.... know that the 4l60e tranny will stand up to the LT1 that's the set up in the chevy trucks, but will I have to change any of the electronic on the tranny with a ls1?

And Basic you have any Idea what year/models run that turbo on the misubishi by chance?

 

Sell it and buy a LS1. LS1 makes closer to 350, not 315.

If you are looking to swap your v6 for an LS1, you have to buy a donor car anyway and literally swap everything over. The 4L60E is also the A4 in teh LS1, it holds up ok to bolt ons and and decent stall, but when looking at H/C builds, you often need to rebuild it.

To properly run a turbo on your car, you are again looking at high costs and high labor for little turnout. Expect spending thousands to just get the turbo and get it installed, but that is not counting the cost to rebuilding your trans or your rear end.

Also, its not so much a matter as "rebuilding" your rear end as it is replacing it. Even on the LS1 cars, the 10 bolt cannot be built to reliably handle 400 rwhp. Add in the cost and labor of swapping to a Ford 8.8", 9" or 12 bolt. Again, this will set you back a couple grand.

All in all it is not worth it to mod your V6 if you simple goal is to go fast and longer be called a "slowmaro". Keep it the way it is and save up for a LS1 as a second car, or sell the V6. If you had extensive knowledge and mechanical skill and the proper equipment, then you can probably get something to work with that V6 just like MusicMan did. But look and read his whole thread, the cost and the trouble he went through to get that car where it is today.

 

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