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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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So what needs to come off to get the dang starter out? Hubby has it unbolted so far and he has hurt himself doing that much. There's no maneuvering it out. Something has to come out/off first.


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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 01:28 PM
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Ok so scratch all of that. Bipolarism strikes again. See if you can hear what it's doing in any of these videos.








 
Old Dec 27, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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First vid, I hear nothing.

Second, I hear and see the engine attempting to start.

Third, I hear the starter click.

Battery, starter, loose/corroded wire, relay, are the first that come to my mind.
 
Old Dec 27, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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You don't hear anything really at all. It's just the movement of the belt. Battery was ruled out and we put another battery in it from another daily driver. We also attempted to jump it with jumper cables and nothing. If it's the starter, it isn't something to do here at home. My husband just isn't capable of it because of his pain. He thinks from what we read and see online that the starter isn't the one made for it. It's not an easy drop at all.


How do you check relays?


The first video, you hear ding, ding, dink clunk. The clunk sound is all we hear. Now that was the last video I did so it's not as powerful as a clunk as the first 2.
 

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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 04:24 PM
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Went back and watched the first one. I hear the dinging now. Must have missed it cause I was eating an Oreo. Ooops. Haha.

For checking the relay...I just usually take one from another electrical device in the car that uses the same relay that I know works and swap it. Here's vid on another way:

However, I would look at a bad wire some where since it seems to be getting power some of the time.

The only issue I've hear with getting the starter in and out is getting around the y-pipe. It takes patience to replace it without removing it, but is much harder.
 

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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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Funny! Which relays are we looking at? In the fuse block where the ABS, fog light relays?
 
Old Dec 27, 2013 | 04:37 PM
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Should be under the hood and labeled starter or ignition relay. It's been a while since I've been under the hood of mine so I'm going off memory.
 
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In all the videos I can hear the starter solenoid engage. That mean everything is working up to the starter. Sure sounds like dead spot in the starter. or the start is simple not strong enough to start the motor either because of a bad starter or because of a damaged motor.

If the starter was starving for power because of a bad battery or bad cables it would use all the power and you would hear the solenoid then disengage (because it needs power also). Once the solenoid disengages it would then have enough power to re-engage.

Ok that is confusing. Basic terms. A start that is starving for more power clicks over and over click, click, click . A starter that is not starving for power but is not strong enough to turn the motor over just clicks once. This is caused by bad brushes, failed windings in the start or by an engine that too hard to turn.
 
Old Dec 28, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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In all the videos I can hear the starter solenoid engage. That mean everything is working up to the starter. Sure sounds like dead spot in the starter. or the start is simple not strong enough to start the motor either because of a bad starter or because of a damaged motor.

If the starter was starving for power because of a bad battery or bad cables it would use all the power and you would hear the solenoid then disengage (because it needs power also). Once the solenoid disengages it would then have enough power to re-engage.

Ok that is confusing. Basic terms. A start that is starving for more power clicks over and over click, click, click . A starter that is not starving for power but is not strong enough to turn the motor over just clicks once. This is caused by bad brushes, failed windings in the start or by an engine that too hard to turn.


So your guess is starter or that my motor seized while I was asleep that night?
 
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Originally Posted by Dana
Ok so scratch all of that. Bipolarism strikes again. See if you can hear what it's doing in any of these videos.
In the post before this one, the starter was unbolted and off (but not out). What does this comment mean, you got it out and replaced?
 



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