How come 98-02 SS and Z28s go for so much but the V6 for so little
ORIGINAL: Matt99camaro
I've looked on cars.com and it's the same cars that are on autotrader.com. Mybe it's the difference in location, but your car you paid $17k for books for $14k here.
I've looked on cars.com and it's the same cars that are on autotrader.com. Mybe it's the difference in location, but your car you paid $17k for books for $14k here.
ORIGINAL: BAN WS6
Pretty much everyone above summed it up rather nicely. Personally,I wouldn't evengive somebody 3000 for a V6 Camaro, I'm a strong believer in keeping muscle in the American Pony Car. When they stick these little V6's in them it just goes against the very reason the Camaro/Trans Am was created.
Pretty much everyone above summed it up rather nicely. Personally,I wouldn't evengive somebody 3000 for a V6 Camaro, I'm a strong believer in keeping muscle in the American Pony Car. When they stick these little V6's in them it just goes against the very reason the Camaro/Trans Am was created.
EDIT: Truely over 60% of sales were v6's for the F-body....I meen if it wasnt for a sixxer the fbody wouldnt of lasted as long as it did.
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ORIGINAL: Redneck97
your an idiot.
EDIT: Truely over 60% of sales were v6's for the F-body....I meen if it wasnt for a sixxer the fbody wouldnt of lasted as long as it did.
www.camarov6.com
ORIGINAL: BAN WS6
Pretty much everyone above summed it up rather nicely. Personally,I wouldn't evengive somebody 3000 for a V6 Camaro, I'm a strong believer in keeping muscle in the American Pony Car. When they stick these little V6's in them it just goes against the very reason the Camaro/Trans Am was created.
Pretty much everyone above summed it up rather nicely. Personally,I wouldn't evengive somebody 3000 for a V6 Camaro, I'm a strong believer in keeping muscle in the American Pony Car. When they stick these little V6's in them it just goes against the very reason the Camaro/Trans Am was created.
EDIT: Truely over 60% of sales were v6's for the F-body....I meen if it wasnt for a sixxer the fbody wouldnt of lasted as long as it did.
www.camarov6.com
6 cylinders were in Camaros from the very beginning, if there was no 6 we would not have Z/28's or SS'S. You may not like or wanta 6, but your the existence of your car to them.
I paid $15k for my 02 SS with 24k miles. The guy had it listed for $20,500 obo. Talk 'em down. Go as low as you would think to be almost insulting, and let them work you up.
You should check out craigslist too for cars, and maybe even ebay. When I was shopping for a Camaro in July there were plenty of LS1's listed at or below 15k. You don't want to pay too much for one of these cars, after all the newest it can be is 5 going on 6 years old. Good luck with the car hunt.
ORIGINAL: lj4
Not sure what book you are looking at (closer to 16.5K) but you also need to add other options that are not listed in the book's options.
ORIGINAL: Matt99camaro
I've looked on cars.com and it's the same cars that are on autotrader.com. Mybe it's the difference in location, but your car you paid $17k for books for $14k here.
I've looked on cars.com and it's the same cars that are on autotrader.com. Mybe it's the difference in location, but your car you paid $17k for books for $14k here.
So I guess you can throw those suggestedprices out the window when the market is willing to pay a higher price. Maybe I'm just to fixed on those prices they suggest and my inexperience with the automobile market.
The automobile industry is a fluctuating market. The actual cash value of a vehicle is not based on book values, as much, as what a dealer can pay for that particular vehicle at auction within his/her specific region.
NADA is what the banks use to determine the value of a vehicle, which is important since the banks typically will not finance more than 110% of the value(NADA retail). Depending on credit.
Blue Book is useless, except as a guide. If anyone uses blue book as a negotiating tool, just tell 'em straight up, "Blue Book is not going to write you a check..."
Only use Blue Book when it works in your favor.
When buying from a dealer be sure to do some research. Most used car dealers purchase their inventory at auction, which is an extreme wholesale value, usually comparable to a book called Black Book, a wholesale market guide for dealers. It's a proven fact that most of a dealerships money comes from used inventory. Used cars are cheaper to get and easier to sell. Dealers will typically budge when they have a car that is common, has known problems, or has imperfections. They typically will not bude on a vehicle that is rare to some extent.
Buying privately is tough, because the seller thinks he/she should be able to get full book for their car, just like the dealer. If you like the car well enough, don't be afraid to pay NADA trade-in. Be sure to include in your negotiating of the price that this individual is not going to warranty this vehicle, like a dealer, or finance you, like a dealer, so why should you pay the same as a dealer for a car that is "as-is"?
The thing is, a nice Camaro is getting harder to find. I see people all the time lookin for way over book because they are so rare, etc.. Every once in a while, they get lucky and some sucker comes by and pays em. Dont fall into that trap. When you use verbage like "I can put a check in your pocket tomorrow morning", etc.. things to entice them to do business with you, your chances of getting what you want increase. for an 02 SS,17-18K should be the max., depending on condition/miles.
NADA is what the banks use to determine the value of a vehicle, which is important since the banks typically will not finance more than 110% of the value(NADA retail). Depending on credit.
Blue Book is useless, except as a guide. If anyone uses blue book as a negotiating tool, just tell 'em straight up, "Blue Book is not going to write you a check..."
Only use Blue Book when it works in your favor.
When buying from a dealer be sure to do some research. Most used car dealers purchase their inventory at auction, which is an extreme wholesale value, usually comparable to a book called Black Book, a wholesale market guide for dealers. It's a proven fact that most of a dealerships money comes from used inventory. Used cars are cheaper to get and easier to sell. Dealers will typically budge when they have a car that is common, has known problems, or has imperfections. They typically will not bude on a vehicle that is rare to some extent.
Buying privately is tough, because the seller thinks he/she should be able to get full book for their car, just like the dealer. If you like the car well enough, don't be afraid to pay NADA trade-in. Be sure to include in your negotiating of the price that this individual is not going to warranty this vehicle, like a dealer, or finance you, like a dealer, so why should you pay the same as a dealer for a car that is "as-is"?
The thing is, a nice Camaro is getting harder to find. I see people all the time lookin for way over book because they are so rare, etc.. Every once in a while, they get lucky and some sucker comes by and pays em. Dont fall into that trap. When you use verbage like "I can put a check in your pocket tomorrow morning", etc.. things to entice them to do business with you, your chances of getting what you want increase. for an 02 SS,17-18K should be the max., depending on condition/miles.
Craigslist works great, at least in DC. I had my choice of Birds, Catfish and Rustangs, esp V6s.
And I bought a 3800II V6 stick Camaro because the Buick V6 was based on the Nailhead V8, won Indy, and is on Ward's all-time 10 best engine list. With 200 HP and 215 lbs torque in an F-body, an objective, rational gearhead would never call a V6 Camaro a dog.
V8s are great. Just not needed. Their low cost just makes them the best deal in sportscars, maybe ponycars...
And I bought a 3800II V6 stick Camaro because the Buick V6 was based on the Nailhead V8, won Indy, and is on Ward's all-time 10 best engine list. With 200 HP and 215 lbs torque in an F-body, an objective, rational gearhead would never call a V6 Camaro a dog.
V8s are great. Just not needed. Their low cost just makes them the best deal in sportscars, maybe ponycars...
Hey Redneck why don't you go **** yourself. I wasn't debating the marketing and business practices of GM. The point I was trying to make is that I can't understand why someone would buy a sports car that lacked horsepower, I was stating my opinion. So, sincerely signed, eat **** and die.


