5.3 vs LS1
#11
Why is there labor charges on the headgasket? You don't think that and engine/tranny swap and custom harness is simpler then a head gasket job?
Level of difficulty LT1 head gasket "4" (1-10 Scale)
Level of difficulty of swaping a different engine/tranny/computer system "8"
If my back was not bad I could for a head gasket in about 8 hours. I would want about 25 hours to change over Kmembers and install LS1 style motor & tranny
Are you thinking of doing this yourself?
Level of difficulty LT1 head gasket "4" (1-10 Scale)
Level of difficulty of swaping a different engine/tranny/computer system "8"
If my back was not bad I could for a head gasket in about 8 hours. I would want about 25 hours to change over Kmembers and install LS1 style motor & tranny
Are you thinking of doing this yourself?
#12
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
Posts: 10,357
The $1000 is if you pay someone to do it. Are you planning on paying someone to do this conversion for you? Cause I am thinking that price tag is going to 4-5K.
You can find low miles LT1's for about $1000 install should be 8-10 hours. Expect another 500 for Tune-up, Belt, hoses, stuff like that. That is your $2300 budget right they.
When you go the conversion route your going to need a LS1 Kmember, You can pick them up pretty cheap but then you need to swap your whole front suspention over. That kind of stuff is very time consuming.
You can find low miles LT1's for about $1000 install should be 8-10 hours. Expect another 500 for Tune-up, Belt, hoses, stuff like that. That is your $2300 budget right they.
When you go the conversion route your going to need a LS1 Kmember, You can pick them up pretty cheap but then you need to swap your whole front suspention over. That kind of stuff is very time consuming.
Last edited by Gorn; 09-29-2011 at 04:50 PM.
#13
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
Posts: 10,357
We have one member that did a 97 LT1 to 98 LS1 system and it like 3 wires that have to change and the car was drivable.
#14
There was a post for LT1 to LS1 conversion that they just had to switch some wires around and change in the tune for computer system. Getting a LS1 OBD II computer to work in a OBD 1 car would not be fun.
We have one member that did a 97 LT1 to 98 LS1 system and it like 3 wires that have to change and the car was drivable.
We have one member that did a 97 LT1 to 98 LS1 system and it like 3 wires that have to change and the car was drivable.
#16
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
Posts: 10,357
Well the 97 Lt1 PCM is the same as the 98 LS1 PCM how can it be "vastly superior" and why would anyone spend 3-400 instead of switching 3 wires? Unless your saying there are wiring harnesses so a LS1 computer will work with a OBD1 computer system? That is a new one on me. Link please
#17
The mechanic behind me said his book called for 13.5 hours labor for the head gasket. I was thinking since I've never done one that would be 20-25 hours for me to do it. Guess I could give it a whirl and if it don't work out I'll just get another motor and chaulk it down as a learning experience.
#18
LS series engine smug, that's how. Great performers they may be, but the fanboys constantly forget that you pay a massive premium for a Gen III motor.
#19
I completely agree with Gorn.
Replacing a head gasket is a simple afternoon project compared to swapping an from an LT1 to any of the LSx engines. It is not a simple motor swap like it used to be in the old days. You have to work with the ECM, harness, exhaust and a ton of little issues that will pop up. You will not be able to complete the LT1 to LSx swap in a weekend and it will cost you well over $2K by the time you are done.
Your easiest route to a good running ride would be to rebuild your LT1. As long as you are just keeping it a 5.7, machine work would be a minimum and parts are readily available. You should be able to be completely done and back on the road for less than a grand. Of course, you will have to wait for the block and heads to come back from the machine shop, so it may be down for a week or two.
Replacing a head gasket is a simple afternoon project compared to swapping an from an LT1 to any of the LSx engines. It is not a simple motor swap like it used to be in the old days. You have to work with the ECM, harness, exhaust and a ton of little issues that will pop up. You will not be able to complete the LT1 to LSx swap in a weekend and it will cost you well over $2K by the time you are done.
Your easiest route to a good running ride would be to rebuild your LT1. As long as you are just keeping it a 5.7, machine work would be a minimum and parts are readily available. You should be able to be completely done and back on the road for less than a grand. Of course, you will have to wait for the block and heads to come back from the machine shop, so it may be down for a week or two.
#20
I completely agree with Gorn.
Replacing a head gasket is a simple afternoon project compared to swapping an from an LT1 to any of the LSx engines. It is not a simple motor swap like it used to be in the old days. You have to work with the ECM, harness, exhaust and a ton of little issues that will pop up. You will not be able to complete the LT1 to LSx swap in a weekend and it will cost you well over $2K by the time you are done.
Your easiest route to a good running ride would be to rebuild your LT1. As long as you are just keeping it a 5.7, machine work would be a minimum and parts are readily available. You should be able to be completely done and back on the road for less than a grand. Of course, you will have to wait for the block and heads to come back from the machine shop, so it may be down for a week or two.
Replacing a head gasket is a simple afternoon project compared to swapping an from an LT1 to any of the LSx engines. It is not a simple motor swap like it used to be in the old days. You have to work with the ECM, harness, exhaust and a ton of little issues that will pop up. You will not be able to complete the LT1 to LSx swap in a weekend and it will cost you well over $2K by the time you are done.
Your easiest route to a good running ride would be to rebuild your LT1. As long as you are just keeping it a 5.7, machine work would be a minimum and parts are readily available. You should be able to be completely done and back on the road for less than a grand. Of course, you will have to wait for the block and heads to come back from the machine shop, so it may be down for a week or two.