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Old May 20, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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I am very disappointed in GM, how the heck could they design a car that requires you to remove the exhaust to change a starter.

To simply change the starter you have to break the studs off the exhaust manifolds, then take of the manifolds and have them drilled and re studded, just so you can break the studs again next time it needs a starter.

That is completely fuc-ing stupid.
I am very quickly beginning to hate 3 gens.

To h-ll with emissions. If I have to pull those manifolds
just to change a starter they will never go on again.
 

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Old May 20, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Sorry for the vent. The new starter is in.
I still think it is stupid that I have to unbolt the exhaust.
Thankfully, the studs came out instead of breaking.

Im still not keeping that setup. I want headers and I want
that y-pipe moved.
 
Old May 20, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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That's not bad. The alternator in the wife's Merc. Mariner (same as Escape) is low mounted and needed to be replaced. You need to remove the passenger side drive axle, and lower the engine/cradle assembly somewhat to gain enough clearance to get it out. Quit yer whining!!!
Luckily it was still covered by warranty, it's a 2.5 hour job. It's about a 10 minute job on the Camaro. That's progress for you.
Btw, did you try soaking the manifold head pipe nuts with PB Blaster and cooking with a torch? One trick when putting back together is to use brass nuts instead of steel, they'll come off easier.
 
Old May 20, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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How about the fuel pressure reg. in a 98 safari 4.3! wholy ****t
 
Old May 20, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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to change the plugs on the newer 3.5L in the chargers and 300s you need to pull the upper intake

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but for future reference if the stud breaks you can take a cutting wheel cut a slit in the side of the hole and go halfway through the stud then take some vice grips and squeeze the stud it should come right out then just got some new bolts
 

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Old May 20, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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That's why I don't own new stuff. Didn't think the 86 was new enough to be stupid. Guess I was wrong.

I don't have a touch. I have a 6 foot cheater pipe.
 
Old May 20, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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should have taken the opportunity to put in a high torque mini starter. lighter, more power, and doesnt need exhaust removal to install
 
Old May 20, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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I think someone needs to start a "so you think you've got it bad" thread!!!
 
Old May 22, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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haha, yea. anyone work on a toyota? hahaha, epic fail. not home mechanic friendly. and if you dont like rust, dont buy a pickup
 
Old May 22, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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ever changed cv axles on a 99 jetta i had to drop the motor just to get the axle out what should have taken me 30 min took 2 hrs
 



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