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Old 06-22-2008, 06:16 PM
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I have a rear end assembly that I got locally. It is supposed to be out of a 1986 Firebird Formula.Did Pontiac make a Formula in 86?
I was told it was a 9 bolt Borg Warner posi unit with cone style clutches. I cannot find much info on this assembly. I only count 8 bolts on the ring gear. If this is a 9 bolt, I should count 9 right? This ratio is 2.7X:1.
Was this typeof rear end used in v8 Firebirds?
 
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Old 06-22-2008, 06:32 PM
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Many. Also, I do not believe there was a Formula made in 86. Does it have 4 wheel discs? If so, it would be the Borg Warner rear, if not, then it is not. Check out this link, lots of great info:

 
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Old 06-22-2008, 07:12 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, this rear enddoes have the the backing plates for disc brakes. I did not see your link, could you send it again?
I would like to use this in a 1990 RS camaro with standard differential (305 TBI).Should this be a bolt-in other than changing back plates to keep my drum rear brakes?
 
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:03 PM
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count the bolts on the diff cover, not on the ring gear. that will give you what you want to know as far as 9 or 10 bolt. the 9 bolt is a stronger unit than the 10.

As far as the disc brake setup, youll need the prop. valve and new e-brake cable, other than that its a direct bolt in.
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:58 AM
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Someone is giving you some incorrect info. No BW 9-bolts used in 1986 on non-existing Formula Firebird. Also they do have (9) gear mounting bolts & and (9) on the cover with a rubber fill plug. The 2:7x ratio also suggest it is a 2:73 ratio which is only used on a 10-bolt,and was on all auto 86 firebirds.
 
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:25 PM
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Thanks for the replies. This assembly has a rubber plug and cone style clutches. I believe it is the BW assembly (G92?). It is odd that the ratio is 2.73:1 when all the info I can find says the ratios were 3.23, 3.42, or 3.73.
How do the axles come out? Flange bolts and slide hammer? I did not see any accessability to remove any C-rings from within the carrier
 
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Old 06-25-2008, 05:34 AM
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2:73 is not a BW 9-bolt ratio, the correct BW ones are 2:77,3:08, 3:27 and 3:45. Also RPO G92 is "perfrfomance ratio". The gear ratio is stamped on the OD of the drive gear.
 
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thanks, it is a 2.77:1 based on counting the gear teeth. So, to get the axles out of the BW unit, do I remove the 4 flange bolts behind the wheel flange and then use a slide hammer to remove the axle?
 
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Old 06-26-2008, 05:02 AM
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If you have the 2:77 ratio it is a 1988 -89 and was mated onlyto a 350 TPI. Yes you remove the flange bolts to remove the axle shafts (no "C" clips as on 10-bolt).
 
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:52 PM
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Thanks. I appreciatethe help.
 
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