Without the lockplate removing tool, how can i remove it? i can push in the plate thing, but then what needs to be removed to release it. isnt there a pin of some kind? thanx!

 

Which lockplate are You talking about?

 

There is a ring in a groove. Like a snap ring but no holes in it for a tool. One person can push on the plate and another can pry the ring out with a small screwdriver. Dont loose it though. You'll need it when it goes back together.

 

is it the small steel ring in the center of the larger one

 

It is, and it's a ***** to get out too. You'd be better off getting a lockplate tool, although it CAN be removed with one person pushing and the other popping the ring out.

 

yeah i think i got a friend bringing the tool over tomorrow now. thanks for your help dudes..

 

The first couple of times I done them I used my hands with a helper but when my thumbs would crackle and pop and affect my video game playing I got a tool!