Crazy high idle
I had another thread for no start issues but that's fixed. So I noticed my idle was all over the place. Bounced around and wasn't very smooth. I just replaced the maf and the iac. I didnt get a chance to test anything because I noticed my water pump died. So now I have all of those items fixed and was idling the car to bleed out any air and the idle was low and smooth. After it ran for roughly 2 to 3 mins the idle jumped up crazy high. My tach doesn't work but it sounds like the idle is well over 2500. I've done the iac relearn and checked to make sure my throttle wasn't sticking but I'm stuck at this point. Not sure what else to check.
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I like to seal off the throttle body and make sure you can stall the motor. Then seal off the IAC inlet port to make sure the RPMs drop below where the idle should be or even stall a cold motor. This just verifies air is not getting in some other way. Once you are sure you are not getting air from someplace else you need a scan tool to make sure the IAC is being told to go home. Home should be the same as plugging the inlet port. If the ECM is tell the IAC to go home and it is not dropping RPMs then either the IAC is not working or the wiring to the IAC has an open or loose connection. If the issue comes and goes it sound like a loose connection. May be a good idea to run a temporary ground to the throttle body just to make sure it is grounded.
You could try wiggling wires but be gentle. 33 year old wires are not going to like being moved too much. Upper intake gasket failure was common back under warranty for these cars. I use to see 2 a month minimum. If you did not do the IAC homing process correctly then the issue should fix itself in a few days.
You could try wiggling wires but be gentle. 33 year old wires are not going to like being moved too much. Upper intake gasket failure was common back under warranty for these cars. I use to see 2 a month minimum. If you did not do the IAC homing process correctly then the issue should fix itself in a few days.
Last edited by Gorn; Jun 9, 2022 at 11:42 AM.
I like to seal off the throttle body and make sure you can stall the motor. Then seal off the IAC inlet port to make sure the RPMs drop below where the idle should be or even stall a cold motor. This just verifies air is not getting in some other way. Once you are sure you are not getting air from someplace else you need a scan tool to make sure the IAC is being told to go home. Home should be the same as plugging the inlet port. If the ECM is tell the IAC to go home and it is not dropping RPMs then either the IAC is not working or the wiring to the IAC has an open or loose connection. If the issue comes and goes it sound like a loose connection. May be a good idea to run a temporary ground to the throttle body just to make sure it is grounded.
You could try wiggling wires but be gentle. 33 year old wires are not going to like being moved too much. Upper intake gasket failure was common back under warranty for these cars. I use to see 2 a month minimum. If you did not do the IAC homing process correctly then the issue should fix itself in a few days.
You could try wiggling wires but be gentle. 33 year old wires are not going to like being moved too much. Upper intake gasket failure was common back under warranty for these cars. I use to see 2 a month minimum. If you did not do the IAC homing process correctly then the issue should fix itself in a few days.
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Are we talking Rough idle cold or high idle cold. High smooth idle means you getting too much air the only question is from where. Rough idle cold can a LOT of different things. One of the tuffest things for a car to do is idle smooth when not at operating temp. Rough idle cold can be cause by just about any system the engine uses. Even a warn motor with valves not sealing in the compression well will show up as rough idle cold first. Worn timing chain will show up the exact same way at first. Fuel pressure, weak ignition, dirty injector, leaking EGR can all cause rough idle cold. I am not saying that what its is just trying to say I would not laser focus on the Air inlet issues You will need more tests. Starting with a vacuum test.
Last edited by Gorn; Jun 10, 2022 at 02:20 PM.
Like I said about upper intake gasket was very common on these cars. They almost always started with rough idle cold. As things go hot they would seal up. Carb cleaner sprayed around the upper intake while it is cold would cause the idle to smooth out. Course it was a lot worse in the winter, something you would not experience. As the intake gasket got worse it would then even do it in the summer but still fade away as the car got hotter. Until a piece of the gasket would get sucked in then the car would shake most of the time at idle. I even had a few cars I had to use a file to get the side runners flat enough to seal on a few cars but that was rare.
Not say that it for sure just that it could be it. Small leaks from the EGR valve would also cause cold rough idle. Seems a warm closed loop motor could handle a small leak from the EGR valve better then the a Cold open loop motor could.
Not say that it for sure just that it could be it. Small leaks from the EGR valve would also cause cold rough idle. Seems a warm closed loop motor could handle a small leak from the EGR valve better then the a Cold open loop motor could.
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