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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Ok I have an edelbrock carb with 3 hose connections on the from 2 small ones on the left and right. They are both capped. and a bigger one in the center going to the vaccum unit. I tried to put it on the valve breather it stalls out. If I cap it, it also stalls out. So I was wondering whats the correct setup for the 3 connections? Than there is alot of smoke coming from both valve cover breathers constantly, like a lit cigar. Also on start ups big smoke puffs blow out 85% of the time, cold/warm/hot it dont matter. So just looking for whats up.

Its and 84 z28 w/ 305

Thanks for your help.
 
Old Jun 6, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Also does anyone know the correct carb setting for a 305? its either a 500cfm or 600 i dont know. I have them turn out to 4 and 1/2 and idle around 600-700
 
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 01:16 AM
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I have an 84 carb just sitting on the shelf from my blown 305. tomorrow or monday I will break the seals and tell you what they turn in. its a parts carb anyway. the proper way to set it though is to use a vacuum gage and make small adjustments till you have max vacuum at around your target idle speed. takes awhile but its proper.
 
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jim022659
I have an 84 carb just sitting on the shelf from my blown 305. tomorrow or monday I will break the seals and tell you what they turn in. its a parts carb anyway. the proper way to set it though is to use a vacuum gage and make small adjustments till you have max vacuum at around your target idle speed. takes awhile but its proper.
thanks. but wouldn't your carb be a bit different? They came with rodchester quadrojets. and im using a edelbrock double pump.
 
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesosneaky
Than there is alot of smoke coming from both valve cover breathers constantly, like a lit cigar. Also on start ups big smoke puffs blow out 85% of the time, cold/warm/hot it dont matter. So just looking for whats up.
I would have to see and then have a few hours time on a carb off a car. So, you need someone on the lines in and out.
But, sounds like [sounds like] you are stalling because of a direct opening from the fitting you are using to the manifold as if a closed loop hose, fell off the manifold fitting and now air is the lean out to a stalling of the next suck of the next cylinder is going to eat some lean meat is starve that chamber.

Oil Loss at 2 main areas can be detected (blow) by:

1. Valve Guide wear to supple rubber seal over guide; which wears to one side.
A. When the valve is pushed either at an angle by a rocker flex, or straight down on a shim bucket.. Wear is factor one.
B. Either the rubber goes hard from age and heat.
C. Valve guide is out of spec and so is the valve at a specific area that wears at the 'slide area' of the valve stem is now an hour glass is need a magnifying glass to see the junk science.
D. Guy brings in. The guy now asks to rub both hands together as hard as you can. Because I was told my physics does not work in someone else IS world, works in mine.
E.xplain how one palm stayed cold and the other is worn hot? Did not two metals contact as in an oil layer is rub the oil off is polish my guide to the start up leak of puffs out the back on.
F.ire UP. Where the guides are so bad, along with the seal, that it drips on the valve and hangs there with a layer of runoff that is waiting at the 30/45/60 is can you see that oil around a closed valve?
G.ets to the cylinder chamber on the first suck in. You see the oil light up on the fire up and when you drive too, remember all that suck is one stroke that sucks it all INN to roost is pull the heads.
D Oil is sucked thru by the vacuum of the stroke X's the strokes you keep the key fob in the column.

2. Ring wear happens when the cylinder fires, the pressure to push the piston down is escaping past the rings.
A. This will happen at the power stroke. You know what happens on the intake stroke with the valve guide walk and rubber diaper needing a new one.
B. This fills the crank case with carbon and smoke. So, your oil is pushing carbon through the engine.
C. My junk science works in the physics I use. There are some who use other junk science and I want that person to bring in the goods if you do not think I know my OTTO.
D. How will the ring gap be known? Leak down says it all.

Be very careful you discuss tech with me if MONTY's name is dropped along with mine; is that Monty Patent X-Pipe guy? Yeah, come get me if I am on the list of weird science someone would pay to see.

And that is a huge magazine owner/editor is he must know Monty personally? Monty makes pipes for bikes too.
 

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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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wow thanks for reply but what? lol I dont understand you talk with metaphors/riddles.

I see oil coming through my breather a good bit that cant be good right?
 
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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Yes, you are correct. It is not right I use the boring tech to get you to that oil loss. But you do have a lot of info is all ready for that Monty guy is I am now gunning for that patent and dyno sheet.

Your moderator is thank him. I am tech driven. You read my type or I type for no one is someone thinks for you is you would have no junk science to bang off of is hear Monty is my assumption he has no clue about exhausts and that is to ask about how he got to a patent with that junk science is now was it the X design and that is it = No HP change is that design or who has a patent on the H pipe?

You laugh an learn is no harm no foul.> Plugs data is.
 
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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lol sorry i have to read what you right like 3-4 times and than all I get is yes your correct, but that can be direct to my first or second statment/questions lol. so all I get is blah blah blah.

So I may need new cylinder rings and my vavles may be off track?
I think thats what you are saying might be the problem...those are pretty big problems eh?
 
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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the smoke coming out of your valve covers is called "blow by". More than likely you need rings (rebuild). I dont know what that PAZ is talking about, cant understand that crap.
 
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jjz28
the smoke coming out of your valve covers is called "blow by". More than likely you need rings (rebuild). I dont know what that PAZ is talking about, cant understand that crap.

aww that aint good. Its my daily driver and I need it for work.
So an engine rebuild is my answer to solve my smoking issues?

well thanks for replies.
 



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