are you positive so if i take them out i just put the new ones and and try to find the center and rotate it...should i do it with or without the chain on

 

You still have to line up the marks. Look at the animation in the link below. It's easiest to set up the cam and crank gears so that they are dot to dot. Then rotate the engine 180 degrees until both dots are straight up. That's top dead center on the #1 cylinder.
http://shbox.com/1/cam_timing_ani.gif

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr_n0...eature=related

 

Hmmm...he used no torque wrench on the cam bolts? Not a good idea, especially if you're not experienced with how tight is tight. I also like to use the lock tab instead of Loctite, but to each their own.

 

ok cool thanks yous guys....so once i put the gears on the dots facing each other i rotate it till this not facing eachother but their still stright aligned...but camaro69 the chain and gears you sent me the link to the smaller gear has 3 groves in it mine only has 1 should i still get it or no
this is the link for the gears that look like mine see how this has the 1 notch in the smaller gear and yours had the 3 its still the same brand
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CLO-C-3001K/?rtype=10

 

yah it was the best of the three i looked at, just tryin to give him the gen idea. he needs to pick up a factory service manual or at least a chiltons.

 

When the dots face each other, the engine is at top dead center (TDC) on the #6 piston. When both dots are up, it's at TDC on the #1 piston.
I still think you should get the one I showed, the one you linked to is a single chain type. The three grooves on the crank gear are options for setting the cam timing (not ignition timing) to normal, 4 degrees retarded, or 4 degrees advanced. The 4 degrees settings are for experienced engine builders who use a dial indicator and degree wheel for setting up a cam. I have a feeling you're not going that route.

 

what i think i might do for now is just get the single one so i know how to align the cylninders and get all that figured out and once i decied to change my cam to a better one i will get the double roller....what would be a good cam for camaro rembmeber its only 5.0 305

 

so my parts should come in today is anyone close to everett wa who can help me with getting them on

 

I wouldn't bother doing a cam in an otherwise stock 305,pretty much a waste of money.
Do the timing set and drive it,save your pennies for a good running 350 or 400.