I have a new 1980 camaro in a 4 speed. that tranny is it? muncie or saginaw? to put it in reverse you pull it up and down next to 2nd gear. it seems every one i have seen they are down next to 4th gear!

 

It should be up next to first. Its either a Saginaw or Borg Warner ST 10. If its an aluminum case is a Borg. Probably a Borg anyhow.

 

no reverse is down next to 2nd gear. i have to pull the shifter **** up and down to put it in reverse and have to do that to get the key uot of igntion.

 

If its a borg warner it will have an aluminum case and a iron side cover w/ I believe 9 bolts and the reverse linkage will be in the tail shaft. A Saginaw will have an iron case

 

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f.../tranny243.jpg

here is a picture of the numbers! does these help to ID?

 

#3925656 is a 1968-69 vintage Saginaw. The 9218 would be the cast date: September 21, 1968. http://www.camaros.org/trans.shtml#4speed

 

so is that good or bad? stong or weaK? thanks for the help!!

 

It can easily handle 350 lbs of torque, which is more than what a small block of your cars vintage puts out. I have even read of guys drag racing with the Saginaw too, so they're not junk just because they're not a Muncie.

 

the guy i bought the car from said the whole tranny was rebuilt. So is that the only 4 speed that has the reverse down next to 2nd gear?

 

As far as I'm aware. The only other trans that I know with that pattern is the old 60's style Fords.