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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 08:13 AM
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Looking to buy a 1970 Chevy Camaro and VIN will not decode here, any suggestions?
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We would need to know the Vin to see what is off. Also verify the Vin on the title. There is not much information in the Vin number. If you are looking for options information you need the info off the cowl tag.

VIN info from 1967 - 1971 were in the same format. The breakdown is as follows:
1st digit: GM Line number: Chevrolet = 1.
2nd digit: Series number: Camaro = 2
3rd digit: Model/Engine number:
3 = 6-cylinder (1967-69 with standard interior) , 4 = V8 (1967-69 with standard interior or 70-71)
5 = 6 cylinder (1967 - 69 with custom interior) , 6 = V8 (1967 - 69 with custom interior)
4th & 5th digit: Body Type Number:
37 = Sport Coupe (1967-69) 67 = Convertible (1967-69) 87 = Sport Coupe (1970-71)
6th digit: Last digit of model year:
7 = 1967, 8 = 1968, 9 = 1969, 0 = 1970, 1 = 1971
7th digit: Letter indicating assembly plant
L = Van Nuys, California, N = Norwood, Ohio
8th through 12th digits: Sequential production number starting with 100001.
 

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Thanks for quick response. There's no cowl tag (MISSING) just VIN 124870N590145
 
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This car has the fiberglass L88 hood scoop that cracking by wiper cowl area on hood. Is it worth fixing or buy a complete fiberglass hood? any recommendation on options?
 
Old Dec 12, 2023 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ALORAMAS1
This car has the fiberglass L88 hood scoop that cracking by wiper cowl area on hood. Is it worth fixing or buy a complete fiberglass hood? any recommendation on options?
It's not a factory hood if it's all glass so it depends on the quality of the maker but fibreglass is usually pretty easy to fix.
If it a complete fiberglass hood or just a glass scoop moulded onto a stock metal hood?
 
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It's a metal hood cut-out and fiberglass L88 hood
 
Old Dec 13, 2023 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ALORAMAS1
It's a metal hood cut-out and fiberglass L88 hood
That's what I figured,of course you'll have to repaint it but a fibreglass repair kit you can get almost anywhere should fix it.
You'll need to sand it down to clean glass and or metal where it's failing so it'll be some work and then repaint.
The other option would be buy a complete hood in the style you want,what was done with your car was pretty common and not unusual to fail at some point.
 
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It has been my personal experience that hood modification like you described are prone to cracking. The two materials (Steel and fiberglass) grow and shrink at different rates. Every time the engine warms up it warms the hood. The metal expands more and faster then the fiberglass. Over time it cracks. I have seen fiberglass last a long time on other body parts its just the hood get hot every drive. Other body panels only get hot from the sun.

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If you doing the repair yourself and the only cost to you is the paint and your time you could repair it. Depending on how often you drive it and how you store it (out of direct sun) a repair could last for years. You want to use a multi directional long fiber fiberglass. I used Tiger Hair in the past. Do both sides of the crack. I used to use a cut wheel and open the crack up to be sure I got enough product inside that I did not sand most of the new material away while I was trying to get the area flat before paint.

If you plan on paying a pro to do the paint just find a good hood. Either all fiberglass or all metal. Either one would be a permanent repair. If I did fiberglass hood I would do hood pins. Some smaller fiberglass hoods can get away with no hood pins but as you know the second gen hood is massive. It cars I have road in the fiberglass hood would start bound in the outer front corners.

If you really like the L88 cowl or you have to have the hood clearance, search the net for pictures of race cars. I have seen guys cut hood and use screws to hold the fiberglass scopes. You can use a flexible bond like RTV to keep water out and if you use stainless screws and place them evenly It should be a 20 year repair if not life time. You problem would then be getting the old fiberglass off your old hood. The RTV and screws should allow enough give so thinks should not crack. I like a flat black hood on a modified car

 

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Well, I'm part of the club. Bought the car this week. Runs and drivers great. Getting some great responses here and good direction for hood repair. The engine has a Weiand blower, so need L88 to clear air filter assembly. Going to go the path of repairing hood, I think, thanks for help.
 
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Originally Posted by Gorn
It has been my personal experience that hood modification like you described are prone to cracking. The two materials (Steel and fiberglass) grow and shrink at different rates. Every time the engine warms up it warms the hood. The metal expands more and faster then the fiberglass. Over time it cracks. I have seen fiberglass last a long time on other body parts its just the hood get hot every drive. Other body panels only get hot from the sun.

In my opinion:
If you doing the repair yourself and the only cost to you is the paint and your time you could repair it. Depending on how often you drive it and how you store it (out of direct sun) a repair could last for years. You want to use a multi directional long fiber fiberglass. I used Tiger Hair in the past. Do both sides of the crack. I used to use a cut wheel and open the crack up to be sure I got enough product inside that I did not sand most of the new material away while I was trying to get the area flat before paint.

If you plan on paying a pro to do the paint just find a good hood. Either all fiberglass or all metal. Either one would be a permanent repair. If I did fiberglass hood I would do hood pins. Some smaller fiberglass hoods can get away with no hood pins but as you know the second gen hood is massive. It cars I have road in the fiberglass hood would start bound in the outer front corners.

If you really like the L88 cowl or you have to have the hood clearance, search the net for pictures of race cars. I have seen guys cut hood and use screws to hold the fiberglass scopes. You can use a flexible bond like RTV to keep water out and if you use stainless screws and place them evenly It should be a 20 year repair if not life time. You problem would then be getting the old fiberglass off your old hood. The RTV and screws should allow enough give so thinks should not crack. I like a flat black hood on a modified car
Gorn, thanks for the detail reply. As stated on last reply, I bought the car and this vehicle runs and drives great. Think I'll check with a couple of body Pros that I know the see if they'll bid repair and paint. I'm an Automotive Tech/Repair show owner and body and paint is an art and I fail art class, lol. .This has been a dream car I've wanted since High school. Can't wait for spring weather in Colorado, thanks again.
 



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